What is the best polymer handgun?

Of the ones I have shot:

Glock 17
Sig 320
M and P
Walther 99

I prefer the Sig. I find that it has the best trigger. It was very easy to shoot well. Very good groups after the first couple of rounds. The Walther had a lot of muzzle flip. Very accurate but took a long time to get back on target. Nice grip and felt good in the hand. The glock took the longest to get used too with a very long and somewhat strange trigger pull and steep grip angle. Once you are used to it a decent accurate gun. In my view the steep grip angle helps control muzzle flip. Not really an issue with the glock. The M and P kind of blah, everything OK but nothing stood out. All of them were totally reliable in the limited number of rounds I fired.
 
Canuck44 said:
Well we make progress at least you admit it is slower. How long does it take for a bullet to travel 45 feet. A significant short time or just a short time? For most the slingshot method is significantly slower whether you think so or not. This is one reason why Vogel champions the slide release lever over the sling shot method.

Glock brought out the 34 and 35 for one purpose and that was to compete in USPSA and IDPA. No other reason. The guns are not allowed in IPSC Production Division. Have you ever heard the comment what wins on Sunday sells on Monday? Glocks have won more IDPA SSP Division titles than any other pistol and dominates that sport along with the M&P's. In fact Glock sponsors Glock only shooting competitions in the US so I suspect Glock has more of an interest in the shooting sports than you think. A significant number of shooters who participate in USPSA and IDPA also are CCW holders and many use the same gun in competitions as they do to carry.

Is the fact the Glocks have a heavy slide and are susceptible to limp wristing a feature to ensure shooters practice clearing jams?
FYI the only gun I have seen jam more at matches is the 1911. The Glocks seem to run afoul of limp wristing when shooters have to shoot around the weak side of barriers. Oh I know shooters should practice more and learn proper techniques. Thought I would get ahead of your next comment.

How much practice do you do shooting around the weak side of barriers - that would be the left side if you are right handed?

Take Care

Bob
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Slower is simply mathematics. Is that additional time relevant or critical? Who knows. I was always under the impression that a reload should take place from behind cover or at the very least concealment. Putting the real world aside and looking at the competition side I haven't seen or been a part of a single match where the divide between first and third place was measured after the decimal place. Perhaps at the IPSC worlds or USPSA nationals it may be more the case but I doubt the reload is where more time is lost.

Glock introduced the 34/35 you are right. They didn't change anything on them other than the trigger is their factory 3.5 lbs connector. The GSSF matches are done with stock Glocks for the most part and has more to do with marketing than it does with appeasing competitors as it is only open to Glock firearms.

Limp wristing is caused by the shooter not the gun.

Why do you ask about support side shooting? I practice it, not as much as I probably should.
 
Kidd X said:
Slower is simply mathematics. Is that additional time relevant or critical? Who knows. I was always under the impression that a reload should take place from behind cover or at the very least concealment. Putting the real world aside and looking at the competition side I haven't seen or been a part of a single match where the divide between first and third place was measured after the decimal place. Perhaps at the IPSC worlds or USPSA nationals it may be more the case but I doubt the reload is where more time is lost.

Glock introduced the 34/35 you are right. They didn't change anything on them other than the trigger is their factory 3.5 lbs connector. The GSSF matches are done with stock Glocks for the most part and has more to do with marketing than it does with appeasing competitors as it is only open to Glock firearms.

Limp wristing is caused by the shooter not the gun.

Why do you ask about support side shooting? I practice it, not as much as I probably should.
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Well because if you are going to limp wrist a round it will be from your weak side unless you switch hands which I often do.

The Glock 34/35 have large slide cuts in them to allow the gun to operate which is one major difference between the Glock 17 and the 34. So your statement is simply not true. One thing S&W did to reduce the possibility of limp wristing was to lighten the slide by scalping the sides. The Glock is an older design with a relatively large heavy slide.

One of the major differences in scores in matches, more so in IPSC than IDPA are the times of reloads. There are less reloads in IDPA matches. Less experienced shooters will lose a significant amount of time to more skilled shooters when it comes to reloading. At the highest level the ability to reload fast is one of things that separates the very good from the really good.

Here watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCTn12qvO9o

Enough said.

He has a one second slide lock reload. You won't see a sling shot reload here and he does use the slide release.

Take Care

Bob
 
Remember when this thread was about which polymer handgun was best? Aaah, simpler times. Anyway, I thought y'all should know that the OP hasn't been online here since last March...
 
Canuck44 said:
Well because if you are going to limp wrist a round it will be from your weak side unless you switch hands which I often do.

The Glock 34/35 have large slide cuts in them to allow the gun to operate which is one major difference between the Glock 17 and the 34. So your statement is simply not true. One thing S&W did to reduce the possibility of limp wristing was to lighten the slide by scalping the sides. The Glock is an older design with a relatively large heavy slide.

One of the major differences in scores in matches, more so in IPSC than IDPA are the times of reloads. There are less reloads in IDPA matches. Less experienced shooters will lose a significant amount of time to more skilled shooters when it comes to reloading. At the highest level the ability to reload fast is one of things that separates the very good from the really good.

Here watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCTn12qvO9o

Enough said.

He has a one second slide lock reload. You won't see a sling shot reload here and he does use the slide release.

Take Care

Bob
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Ok Bob, you know everything, I guess the rest of us should just pull up a chair and soak up all you have to say.

My vote goes to Glock. The original polymer pistol(and yes Bob I am aware of the VP70) that all others attempt to duplicate.
 
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