what is the best value 9mm pistol out there?

ChromeArty said:
I just think your hard pressed to do better than a cz75... reliable, good looking, steel construction, proven... cheapesk!
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+2...it's not the cheapest, but if you consider what's already been mentioned here and the ergonomics, and add the build quality and that it's one of the easiest handguns to learn to shoot well...you definitely have a bargain.
 
great shooting! and no offence, but 3000 rounds in 31 years? at this rate, any $300 gun with basic proper maintenance doesn't require any replacement parts. :)

canmic said:
30 years ago? Browning High Power. I got mine 31 years ago, haven't had to replace a single part on it yet (I'm going to replace the barrel soon). roughly 3000 rounds down the pipe and today I shot 9 out of 10 shots in the 10 ring at 25m with it. No I don't usually have that good a day but clearly this gun can do it when I am up to it. I also got the Pachmyr 22 lr kit for it, which has seen a few 1000 rounds down the pipe as well and is still going great. Was it cheap like a Norinco? Nope. But how many Norincos would I have had to buy to do this much shooting over such a long time?

Today? Glock 17 and get the Advantage Arms 22 lr kit for it as well.

If you want value, nothing beats the ability to shoot 22 lr using the same grip, sight style, trigger etc...
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Buy once, cry once. If you really want a Shadow or HK, 1911... save up for it rather than upgrading.
 
well, like I said, I was thinking of the 75 SP-01 Shadow, but I'm very curious about the P250 and P320 now. :)

having a hard time finding one shop with both in 9mm and night sights in stock tho, delaying my ability to make an impulse purchase. :p
 
Protege said:
Glock. Parts availability right down to the channel liner. Customization options are endless. If you buy the gen 3, you can change the slide and/or frame courtesy of lonewolf. Simplicity and ease of maintenance - hands down the most simple and ridiculously easiest to strip gun that I've ever owned. Just as accurate as any combat handgun out there, and just as reliable, if not more reliable/dependable.
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I agree with the Gen3 G17. No special tools required to take it down and lots of parts/accessories available….

My '68 "T" series BHP has seen maybe 300rnds and 3/4 out it by me in the last 6yrs….
 
Why night sights? Have them on my Sig 1911 and G22, don't see the point without CCW. Always shoot in daylight, prefer FO.

Best to actually shot them. Busy day at a range is best day to go. Bring your own ammo, never been refused when asked politely to try their gun.
Mr. Friendly said:
well, like I said, I was thinking of the 75 SP-01 Shadow, but I'm very curious about the P250 and P320 now. :)

having a hard time finding one shop with both in 9mm and night sights in stock tho, delaying my ability to make an impulse purchase. :p
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Mr. Friendly said:
well, like I said, I was thinking of the 75 SP-01 Shadow, but I'm very curious about the P250 and P320 now. :)

having a hard time finding one shop with both in 9mm and night sights in stock tho, delaying my ability to make an impulse purchase. :p
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Just try a CZ before you buy and you won't have to ponder any longer
 
I just got a Walther PPX Range Kit and can't say enough good about it. The whole thing was $500.
This was the first 5 shots out of the box.
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and I know it was 90% the pistol 10% the operator
 
There's a few to choose from, value for money would include accessories and a reputable name imho. However I have been really pleased with the Girsan Regard. Shoots well, egos are pretty good, good price and two mags, but that's it.
 
If you are talking about actual value for the money spent, honestly you can't beat the FN FNS9l, for under $500 it's a great value, great ergonomics, fantastic grip, 3 steel mags, 2 back straps and it all comes in a quality case. It can be stripped down in seconds, has a cold hammer forged barrel, and comes from the factory with polished feed ramp, accurate as hell and a good trigger that gets better as you shoot it. Possibly the most underrated and unknown 9mm out there at this time, and worth looking at if value is what you are after, watch Hickok45's review of it on YouTube , it's also doing quite well on the competition circuit in the USA .
 
silverfoxdj said:
Just try a CZ before you buy and you won't have to ponder any longer
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I know I'm a fanboy... but it's all about that CZ! I have tried to own Glocks.... 4 in fact!... they find their way onto the EE... the CZ's always find their way to the range. If I could carry, I might sing a different tune.

Every time I have gone to buy a Browning High Power, I end up CZ. Last week I shot a friend's Inglis HP 1943 manufacturer with the internal extractor (way nicer IMO) and it was a great shooter. They are smaller than I thought they were... which is a plus. But that magazine disconnect is unfortunate. Which brings me back to CZ... you want precision out of the box? ... fanboy time!... CZ75 baby!!!
 
for polymer... s&w sd9, so Glock like but better that Glock sued s&w and won. @$400, if you are not a Glock snob...

for steel my pick would be the Tokerav m70a in 9mm, cheaper than a Norinco @ under $300, classic Browning blow back design (very reliable), parts readily available, great history and has the Cold War je ne saids quoi. And you don't have to worry about the elusive 7.62x25 (in Canada anyways).

If history/military peaks your interest, the four pistol you must have in your collection is a colt 1911, browning high power, beretta 92 and a Tokerav tt. Just so happens that the Tokerav is the least expensive of the four but being all metal, comes in 9mm and a browning design, it provides exceptional value.
 
If you are serious about best VALUE on a new pistol then the M&P Range it is it along with some of the other polymer range kits from what I have seen. I own an M&P. Now if you are interested in used then other choices can become contenders too and many have been suggested in this thread. I would pay a premium over a new M&P of a couple hundred or three for a CZ Shadow kit.
 
Mr. Friendly said:
night sights because I have bad vision and often shoot into twilight at my range.

so, CZ 75 SP-01. safety or decocker?

also, are it's fixed sights replaceable?
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I've been told that the safety version has, or can be tuned to have, the better trigger. Don't know first hand. I kind of like the decocker tactical version, too. Good time to buy, particularly used, as everyone is unloading in time for the 2. Sights are definitely replaceable. Check out czcustum.com in the US for all the different sight options, among others. Several other places in Canada, like Dlask, carry the parts as well.
 
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