What is the Ruger 10/22 really like?

I bought one earlier this year and sold it a couple of months later. It was very disappointing.

Mine was the stainless barrel in the sporter stock with no barrel band at the front. A very handsom rifle but very disappointing in use.

The trigger group wobbled in the receiver because the pins holding it in place were loose. I could order aftermarket pins or shim them -- so I shimmed them.

The whole barrelled action moved backwards when pulling the trigger when the stock screw loosened. It loosened frequently during shooting and required constant tightening.

It did not particularly like 333 or 555 ammo but did very will with Winchesters M-22 stuff.

When everything was solid, it was as accurate as I could want. But it needed constant fiddling and shims to make it solid. Not what I expect from a rifle that cost $400 or so.

Wife and kids did not particularly like the feel of the thing and really disliked the bolt release. With nobody falling in love with it, it got sold.

I suspect that earlier vintage 10/22's were better built. The modern batch just seems sloppy in comparison.

I also suspect that peer pressure plays a big role in everyone recommending the 10/22. It's like my friend who insists that his Honda Civic is the best small car ever made, even though he's had to replace the tranny under warranty, the rear window due to leaks, and it won't start when it's cold or wet. But hey, there's a lot of aftermarket parts for it and everyone else says it's great, so it must be.

I keep saying this but I will say it again. When I go to the range with my Savage 64, I spend the day shooting. The 10/22 guys around me spend their time dealing with failures to feed, fire, or eject. They spend more time farting with their magazines and clearing issues than they do shooting.

But other than that, it's the best rifle ever made.
 
^ The Honda Civic has been #1 in Canada for something like 19 years straight. By the numbers, it is the best small car made.

The Ruger 10/22 plays second fiddle to the Marlin 60, by a long shot. There are over 11 million 60's produced at this point, versus ~6 million 10/22's.
 
What is the Ruger 10/22 really like?

Well, if the RCMP is to be believed, it is DANGEROUS because it can accept MAGAZINES THAT HOLD MORE THAN 10 rounds!

What affect does this have? Well, tactical870 told me that "A KITTEN DIES EVERY TIME YOU PUT MORE THAN 10 ROUNDS IN A MAG!"

How many kittens have died as a result? Let's do the math... 1,250,000 mags imported over the last 30+ years AND ASSUMING each of these hold 30, a FRIGHTENING 20 KITTY KILLING ROUNDS beyond the non-kitty killing 10 rounders... That means that 2,500,000 kittens have DIED if each shooter has used the mag JUST ONCE!

Another member on here said he had 100,000 rounds through his 10/22!!! So, I am going to have to guess that BILLIONS OR TRILLIONS OR MORE rounds have been loaded into these mags...

That means ONE BILLION MILLION QUADRILLION GAZILLION KITTIES HAVE DIED BECAUSE OF THESE MAGS!

Dear God, the horror!

Regards
Jay
P.S. In all seriousness, I like the Ruger 10/22. I'm not such a fan of police creating criminals and prohibiting people's property.
 
^ The Honda Civic has been #1 in Canada for something like 19 years straight. By the numbers, it is the best small car made.

The Ruger 10/22 plays second fiddle to the Marlin 60, by a long shot. There are over 11 million 60's produced at this point, versus ~6 million 10/22's.

The problem with the Civic, like the 10/22, is over justification. So many people say that the things are great that when someone has problems with theirs, that person will overlook the problems and continue to think that they are part of the brothership of the great. It's a herd instinct. I think many guys will not criticise their crappy newer 10/22's because that will exclude them from the in crowd.

I don't doubt that the older 10/22's are / were skookum as frig. My problem is with the current production versions, which from what I owned and what I see at the range are total carp.

I agree with you that the Marlin 60 is a better rifle, even modern current production versions. Part of the proceeds from my 10/22 sale went to a Marlin 60. Fun little rifle.

Best 22 semiauto of all time, though, is by far the Stevens 87 / Savage 6. Those are awesome.
 
Other than the 20lb trigger it runs just like a Honda. Try different brands of ammo and find the one it shoots good with and you are set for the next fifty years
 
Other than the 20lb trigger it runs just like a Honda. Try different brands of ammo and find the one it shoots good with and you are set for the next fifty years

No, it doesn't. Regardless of cleaning it and ammo selection it runs like crap......unless you replace the extractor and polish it....newer ones are a project gun.

And I have seen a new honda with a thrown rod too!
 
The problem with the Civic, like the 10/22, is over justification. So many people say that the things are great that when someone has problems with theirs, that person will overlook the problems and continue to think that they are part of the brothership of the great. It's a herd instinct. I think many guys will not criticise their crappy newer 10/22's because that will exclude them from the in crowd.

It's possible I've just been lucky, but I've had quite a few newer 10/22s, and none have suffered from any operational or major accuracy problems. The #1 issue I have seen is the 25 rounders jamming up, or people using total junk ammo. With decent quality bulk ammo and 10 round factory mags, my experiences have been positive with regards to functionality and accuracy. The newer ones are built to a slightly lesser standard no doubt, but unless it affects function it's a moot point operationally.
 
The best thing about the 10/22, to me, is its versatility. You can own a variety of very different 10/22 firearms that all share the same magazines, and have the same basic/interchangeable receiver/bolt/trigger:
These are (or were) all mine, although some have since found new homes or had their parts interchanged with other 10/22s:
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I have never owned a 100% stock 10/22 for more than a few hours:)
 
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The Ruger 10/22 is what it was intended to be: a reliable semi at an affordable price. It is not an Annie.....so let's not make that comparison...... :rolleyes:

The older ones were better built than the newer ones, but that is the case with so many guns and other items as well. Just compare the price point of the 10/22 to other guns that may be more refined in craftsmanship and you will see that it is still a value 22 rifle.

They shoot accurately for what it is and function with anything you can feed them. I have known young guys over the decades to have fired God knows how many round through them. I recall seeing a beat up one that was a piece of crap back in the 80s that two teenage guys had fed box after box of CIL through and it was still going strong. No maintenance but still running and doing what it was supposed to do. LOL

BTW, some young (at the time as they are all grown up now and men) guys who were neighbours bought some of those steel lip Butler Creek mags back in the 90s and ran the snot out of them along with the 10/22. Everything worked fine including that slick loader crank handle loader for the mags. The three of them did a lot of plinking with that thing along with taking some groundhogs and grackles. Fun for teenagers........but that is viewed as evil evil evil today.

I with Jay on the fact I do not like RCMP making instant criminals out of otherwise honest folks. It has been done in the past and now continues on a much greater and broader scale. I could say more, a lot more, but it would only get me banned........as I have said before, the antis, Libs and RCMP brass should consider carefully what they are asking for...............

CD
 
Well said CD, my experiences and opinion are the same. I ran bricks of thunderbolt through my 10/22 as a kid mostly with an old ramline 30 rd double stack mag that my father bought me when I was 11 or something. Never had a problem with it and even won a few matches at the local club. It probably saw close to 100k rds before its first cleaning and was second hand before that. A childhood friend's father kept it on his boat. The divers brought it back up from the bottom of the pacific. My father fixed it up and refinished it and I still have it all these years later. Still reliable and still shoots great. Now all of a sudden I'm in possession of prohibited assault clips that I've had since I was a kid? I don't think so, chumps (RCMP brass).
 
I bought mine without any great expectations and was really pleased. It is extremely reliable and surprisingly accurate. I topped mine off with a 2-7x34 Redfield Battlezone Tac22, dropped a BX-22 trigger in it and have no problem shooting gophers out to 100 yards with good consistent solid hits. But I also find my Mini-14 shoots better than what I hear others saying they are capable of?
 
Had to buy one just to see why it's so popular, aside from the aftermarket goodies. The 50th anniversary model appealed to me as a scout rifle lookalike:
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Now mine was pretty accurate out of the box, but I hear YMMV. My Savage 64 is a bit more accurate, and I find it less of a pain to reassemble after cleaning, but the best feature of the Ruger is the rotary mags. They just work, period. The S64 mags, not so much. But my favourite .22 isn't an autoloader at all - it's an old Winchester 94/22 that I got from my Dad. Some day my son will own it.
 
I'm not sure! I was hoping to learn that there were add ons that actually make it look like the real deal, or as closely as possible.

I don't think any add-ons will end up with a very authentic MP5 look, I was trying for a vaguely MP-5ish style sub gun look with this build:

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The Rhineland Arms (discontinued) was another rifle that used a 10/22 mag and bolt, and is quite similar looking to the HK.
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