Okay being keeping my black rifles going - and with real mags not neutered BS Canadian ones
AAR and Lessons Learned: Tactical Response/Tony Scotti: High Risk Civilian Contractor Driving Course.
Day 1:
AM: Classroom, intro to vehicles etc. done by Tony Scotti’s associates Adam and Nate. We where given copies of Tony’s book on driving – and copy’s of a high risk specific issues. Issues about driving, G-forces, and the driver/vehicle relationship – coefficient of friction of the surface being driven upon etc… I am not a big math guy and neither where the rest of my course mates – but it was explained in a very clear manner that was design not to baffle us but simply demonstrate that there are limits to what we can or can no do with a vehicle.
PM: Classroom, then Range – James and Rob started us out with dot drills, then transitions. This was a good break from the classroom and as well allowed the staff to get a good idea of the different skill levels involved in the course – especially in a course as fluid as this one is.
Day 2:
AM: Range – Driving, Adam and Nate, ran thru a few basic driving drills – a cone slalom and then a driving stopping in a curve drill. We got to understand what we could and could not do in the car as a driver.
PM:
.
Day3:
AM: More driving both 90 turns using the emergency Brake and Decision maker driving excerisce – where the driver has to approach an obstancle and megotiate a path around it (inside the course) however the driver turns away for the light (light goes on within a specific time – which they varied)
PM: Range Driver/Shooter – a shooting exercise on a pop-up target – firing one round while the drive negotiated a slalom and Static in vehicle shoot drills
Backing up while shooting
Vehicle Egress while under fire
Day4:
AM: Push outs and ramming -
PM:
Day5:
AM: Ran thru drills with Mookie – specifically vehicle egress drills, and a number of other excesises designed to get us thinking for the final ex.
PM: Final EX.
Each Student had the oppurtinity to drive, command, and be a shooter # in the team – using a 1 car 5 man team.
The EX started with a vehicle down scenario – where we then had to commander a “local” vehicle – GET THE #### OUT THE VEHICLE HADJI… (I was the first commander so I vocalized the drill..)
The driver then had to back up and get the team going in the opposite direction, ramming a parked insurgent vehicle and trying to negotiate (or ram) the vehicle thru a series of obstacle cars – then doing a corner – being near a IED detonation (a cool touch) – a series of evasive manuvers to a frontal ambush which disables the vehicle and a 90 turn is executed and the team extracts under fire and movement.
• I may have botched the timetable a bit – so please feel free to make corrections.
Now on to what I call the KevinB Lessons Learned.
• Vehicle Weight – tires and shocksBe careful of what your team runs – our team using Nissan 4 Runners and 5 guys – is WAY overwight for the vehicle payload – using crappy tires is a receipe for disaster.
• Vehicle commander – must sit offset so as to best cover his arcs – this is a no-brainer for most – however some entities feel this manner is too aggressive (rolleyes)
• Seatbelts – using softskins where you shoot out – DO NOT WEAR THEM. We found out that the seat belt stopped the shooter from being able to track onto a target or effective bring the weapon to bear.
• Smaller SUV’s suck for actually shooting and maneuvering in – the offset of fitting in better than larger North American vehicle is a trade off you have to work out for yourself…
• Runflats – nice – but we did execute a drill with two flats and the driver managed to maintain control and yet still keep a decent speed. – You can run a vehicle that still runs out of a kill zone with flat tires.
• Pushouts – pratice them..
• Practice – practice – practice - -- I got better training in the 5 days with this course than the last 5 months at our project….
* Have a REAL team - dont put morons in position of authority - not a knock on the guy on the course - but a combination of issues I have obseved on my project and the course. The commander has to KNOW instinictively how to command WHILE shooting - moving and comminicating (communicating to both the vehicle team - the other vehicles and the Op center) - the driver has to know how to drive - not simply be a spare prick at the wedding. Medics - are medics - not commanders or drivers -- if they are that experience - get a new medic, and let the ex-medic evolve.
* Proper Bugout and vehicle fight kits are a must;
We would expend 6-10 mags simply getting 2-3 tactical bounds from the vehicle - EACH. You need a mouted crash kit and a pussout tray to take with you -- any firing from the vehicle shoudl be able to be re-bo,bed up with mags in the vehicle not from your vest - since if you dismout that puts you at the negative.
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More stuff here
http://getoffthex.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/552106881/m/1951002921
AAR and Lessons Learned: Tactical Response/Tony Scotti: High Risk Civilian Contractor Driving Course.
Day 1:
AM: Classroom, intro to vehicles etc. done by Tony Scotti’s associates Adam and Nate. We where given copies of Tony’s book on driving – and copy’s of a high risk specific issues. Issues about driving, G-forces, and the driver/vehicle relationship – coefficient of friction of the surface being driven upon etc… I am not a big math guy and neither where the rest of my course mates – but it was explained in a very clear manner that was design not to baffle us but simply demonstrate that there are limits to what we can or can no do with a vehicle.
PM: Classroom, then Range – James and Rob started us out with dot drills, then transitions. This was a good break from the classroom and as well allowed the staff to get a good idea of the different skill levels involved in the course – especially in a course as fluid as this one is.
Day 2:
AM: Range – Driving, Adam and Nate, ran thru a few basic driving drills – a cone slalom and then a driving stopping in a curve drill. We got to understand what we could and could not do in the car as a driver.
PM:
.
Day3:
AM: More driving both 90 turns using the emergency Brake and Decision maker driving excerisce – where the driver has to approach an obstancle and megotiate a path around it (inside the course) however the driver turns away for the light (light goes on within a specific time – which they varied)
PM: Range Driver/Shooter – a shooting exercise on a pop-up target – firing one round while the drive negotiated a slalom and Static in vehicle shoot drills
Backing up while shooting
Vehicle Egress while under fire
Day4:
AM: Push outs and ramming -
PM:
Day5:
AM: Ran thru drills with Mookie – specifically vehicle egress drills, and a number of other excesises designed to get us thinking for the final ex.
PM: Final EX.
Each Student had the oppurtinity to drive, command, and be a shooter # in the team – using a 1 car 5 man team.
The EX started with a vehicle down scenario – where we then had to commander a “local” vehicle – GET THE #### OUT THE VEHICLE HADJI… (I was the first commander so I vocalized the drill..)
The driver then had to back up and get the team going in the opposite direction, ramming a parked insurgent vehicle and trying to negotiate (or ram) the vehicle thru a series of obstacle cars – then doing a corner – being near a IED detonation (a cool touch) – a series of evasive manuvers to a frontal ambush which disables the vehicle and a 90 turn is executed and the team extracts under fire and movement.
• I may have botched the timetable a bit – so please feel free to make corrections.
Now on to what I call the KevinB Lessons Learned.
• Vehicle Weight – tires and shocksBe careful of what your team runs – our team using Nissan 4 Runners and 5 guys – is WAY overwight for the vehicle payload – using crappy tires is a receipe for disaster.
• Vehicle commander – must sit offset so as to best cover his arcs – this is a no-brainer for most – however some entities feel this manner is too aggressive (rolleyes)
• Seatbelts – using softskins where you shoot out – DO NOT WEAR THEM. We found out that the seat belt stopped the shooter from being able to track onto a target or effective bring the weapon to bear.
• Smaller SUV’s suck for actually shooting and maneuvering in – the offset of fitting in better than larger North American vehicle is a trade off you have to work out for yourself…
• Runflats – nice – but we did execute a drill with two flats and the driver managed to maintain control and yet still keep a decent speed. – You can run a vehicle that still runs out of a kill zone with flat tires.
• Pushouts – pratice them..
• Practice – practice – practice - -- I got better training in the 5 days with this course than the last 5 months at our project….
* Have a REAL team - dont put morons in position of authority - not a knock on the guy on the course - but a combination of issues I have obseved on my project and the course. The commander has to KNOW instinictively how to command WHILE shooting - moving and comminicating (communicating to both the vehicle team - the other vehicles and the Op center) - the driver has to know how to drive - not simply be a spare prick at the wedding. Medics - are medics - not commanders or drivers -- if they are that experience - get a new medic, and let the ex-medic evolve.
* Proper Bugout and vehicle fight kits are a must;
We would expend 6-10 mags simply getting 2-3 tactical bounds from the vehicle - EACH. You need a mouted crash kit and a pussout tray to take with you -- any firing from the vehicle shoudl be able to be re-bo,bed up with mags in the vehicle not from your vest - since if you dismout that puts you at the negative.
*
More stuff here
http://getoffthex.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/552106881/m/1951002921
