What kind of accuracy are you getting with hunting loads

take hunting rifle to range every time you go

hang target at either 100/200/300 or anywhere in between is preferd

take 1 quick cold bore offhand shot and see if you hit it...

do it every time you go to the range...

you maybe surprised where that first bullet end's up...

if your not surprised then go hunting... ;)
 
I can hit a chicken silhouette at 200 meters off my elbows with my 6.5X55 O/U, that is more than good enough for me with open iron sights and a rifle that I bought for still hunting.
My long range rifles do much better than that , of course.
My .58 hawken will shoot 2MOA, and that is also with open sights .
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SubMOA for all my bolt guns or it's back to the drawing board except for the big bore levers (.45-70 and .444 - anything under 2" works for what they're designed to do) - one inch is more than sufficient for hunting ammo. Anything tighter than that is just because you want it read ego. It's also a real challenge to be subMOA consistently. There's a lot more to it than the ammo - the ammo is the easy one to manipulate if the chamber/bore is capable of good accuracy.
 
I'm generally satisfied with 1.5" @ 100 yards for hunting purposes. Most of my rifles actually shoot noticeably tighter than this, with 0.75" groups not out of the ordinary. I load for power first and only lay off the powder if I'm obviously having an accuracy problem that can't be solved by things like changing bullet seating depth, changing powders, free floating my barrels, bedding my actions or doing a little trigger work etc. I've never believed in shooting a 300 win mag at 30-06 power levels (for example) and so power is the last thing I sacrifice if I need to. Luckily I find many rifles actually shoot best when pushed hard for power.
 
im not happy unless im sub moa but thats just me,the hunting rifles i own will all shoot .5-.75 with high quality hunting bullets WITH MY RELOADS that i spent a fair time developing,do you need sub moa for a moose ,not really unless it is way out there,the equation a shooter has to work out is ,groupsize at 100 yards=kill zone of animal at ? yards,figure in wind,nerves,solid rest ,offhand,yada,yada yada,my 300 win mag sendero will put 3 shots into an inch at 200 yards with 200 grain accubonds......if i could bring my sand bags with me hunting and a chair and table i would be confident in making some long shots with that load,but in field conditions its a little different,i shot my moose this year offhand at 200 yards but the sendero is fairly heavy and easier to hold steady offhand,i was very confident in the shot,at 300 yards i would have looked for a rest for sure,and with a good rest 300 yards on a big moose with an accurate gun is fairly easy(flame me now,i know some want to)but it all comes down to conditions and how confident you are in making the shot,ie practice:)
 
a 10 shot 1" group and you're questioning it? haha boo f*cking hoo..that's an excellent group with any load really...and as many have said pushing lighter bullets with higher velocity is the ticket with the tsx and it looks like you found it with the 168's so you're set...good luck hunting!
 
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