what kind of accuracy are you guys getting from your M14?

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Hey guys, i'm considering an M14, what kind of accuracy can be expected from one of these with decent ammo?
 
After tricking out my buddy's we were shooting a zombie squirel @ 200 meter's today. He was really pissed off that this $400 gun with a hi-lux 1-4 scope was shooting 1.5 inch to 2 inch groups @ 100 meter's and we were able to repeatebly hit 4 inch clay pigeon's @ 200 meter's with ease. This is because this shooter is use to having nothing but S&B or NF for optic's and his cheapest rifle besides this one is an XCR or a Sako TRG-42. Oh ya it's an all stock but tinkered with Norinco done out to th 9's. It's not no bolt action but it's a hell of alot more fun :D
 
SHORT ANSWER: Stock Norinco; 2" or 2 MOA out of the box is reasonable.


I get 1/2 moa accurracy out of my "M14" with "decent" ammo.


It depends on your M14 and what you call decent ammo.

For me decent ammo is handloaded and I can handload up a box quicker than I could drive to the store for them, it's cheaper and I weigh every charge. (I don't count my time shopping for components and researching loads and testing them, cause that's fun.)

If you want accuracy there's a few things that are critical.

You must tune your gun just to get a consistent baseline.

Handloading is a must or buy super expensive ammo.

And number 1, to do some thing well you must do it alot, so practice. Most of our guns are better than us, I know mine is.

OR

Just blaze away at an 8" gong with your 400.00 gun and have fun with surplus ammo.

Either way it's all good, but while hitting a gong is fun, if thats all you do your only going to get good at hitting a gong.

Unless of course your shooting the 8" gong consistently at 600 yards.

A couple of old adages come to mind, "Only accurate guns are interesting" and "accuracy costs, how much can you afford."
 
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I must be super lucky. It shot great after Bits of Pieces gave it the once over (previous owner). I've tuned it a little bit (at clinics) and have noticed much improvement. Now bedding it into a USGI fg stock after having installed the SA mount and my 3200 Tactical. Can't wait to start snapping blades of grass!
 
With Win Supreme XP3 ammo, mine has gotten a couple of 3/4 MOA groups. They're actually the only groups I've ever shot with the rifle. I've yet to start reloading for it. Keeping my fingers crossed that those groups weren't an anomoly.
 
I got 1 inch groups at 100 but mine is in a Troy SASS stock plus a number of mods and Leupold Tactical 4.5x14. BTW the ammo was Federal blue box 150gr
Henry;)
 
you can get 1 moa with decent ammo. Do not buy the winchester 19$/per box with soft lead point exposed. If you look at the point, its all reformed with little bump and with different point size. There is no way you can get decent accuracy with ammo that have a deformed point.
Spend the extra 2$ and get the winchester red box powermax with hollow point instead. All the bullet are consistent in size and with no apparent bump.
 
It's not unrealistic to expect that with a little tinkering and the right store bought ammo, to get 1.5" groups at 100 yards. I can't get nearly that good of groups with milsurp ammo. Also, as it's a semi auto, expect that after some rapid fire the barrel will heat up and the point of impact may wander.
 
it goes without saying that you should be able to get at least 3 inch groups but can do consierably better- properly supported , off a bench, will do wonders for your groups- as well with LOAD DEVELOPMENT- about 2 inch is about all you can expect with that cheap factory 150 grain load- you do some experimentation and you'll shrink that group by another 1-1.5 -start off by moving to 165s ,and look up the zediker match loads and go from there
 
Depends on the gun and the ammo.

I had one M14 (should have never sold it), that would do 0.75 MOA. It was a real gem. But since selling that one I've had quite a few that would average about 3 MOA.

Also, M14s seem to be extremely fussy about the ammunition you use in them. In my 0.75 MOA rifle, I could open the groups up to 5 MOA with the cheapest ammo I could find at Canadian Tire.

As a general rule, if you're M14 sucks in the precission department, try different ammo before you write it off or take it to the gunsmith.
 
That target was 300 yards, resting on a bench, open sights, perfect conditions, with my new USGI bolt.

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I use irons and now with reasonable ammo, I average about 2.5" or worst from various positions. If I rest the rifle on sandbags, I am usually in the 1.5 to 2" range at 100 yards.
 
With junk ammo anywhere between 4-5 inch groups, 5 shots @ 100m from the prone resting the rifle on my crappy duffle range bag.
With quality ammo about 1-3 inch groups, 5 rounds @ 100 m from the prone, resting on my crappy duffle range bag.
More than accurate enough for a battle rifle with irons.
 
Sobo, that's good shooting at 300 yds.

I'd would be fun to see more groups and targets posted, including from the 1/2 moa M305's........:D
 
liberty said:
Sobo, that's good shooting at 300 yds.

I'd would be fun to see more groups and targets posted, including from the 1/2 moa M305's........:D
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Ya, but that was kinda cheating. I wanted to see how the gun could shoot. So I had the thing benchrested. Elevations and windage all done through screws and knobs, near perfect wind conditions, careful resighting and barrel cool down after each shot.

Almost had a string pulling trigger too! It did illustrate to me that the rifle is indeed a shooter and that was the whole point of the exercise.
 
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