what kind of scope...nice and affordable ?

Very well put, TB.
About fifty years ago I bought a book that had all of that in it and I have adhered to it ever since.
 
What an odd thread. All these opinions offered and all we know is that the OP is buying a 700.

Is he hunting deer, varmints, elk, target shooting short range, wanting to do some long range stuff?

Nobody knows (yet).
 
This is so typical of what happens when someone asks a question.
The question, though skimpy, is a sensible request, so he gets a bunch of sensible replies.
But so often, the OP never comes back and the thread, running off in some direction(s) dies.
 
H4831 said:
Very well put, TB.
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That wasn't all me, lol,..I got that from an article I read awhile ago. I was not aware of all of that until I read it, and I was just as naive as anyone else and thought the bigger the objective the better, but I never did buy a 50mm scope because the 40mm would allow me to see very well before and after legal shooting time.
 
A real-life comparison for those interested. I attended a sighting-in workshop. We did a test at 50 Yds. where we zeroed the scope to point of aim, turned the dials to move it up four inches, right. four inches. down four inches and left to starting position, firing three shots at each setting. My Bushnell Trophy worked perfectly to produce a 4" square. Some of the other shooter's scopes, not so good. The instructor said, if the scope won't do this, buy a better one. On the other hand, I sent in a cheap Tasco scope for warranty to Bushnell, because it would no longer hold zero. I would check it before hunting season and I would be off, would have to chase it around tapping after adjusting, and when I was done, settings where almost when I started. Got the replacement and I still have to tap after adjusting, or else it sticks and won't move and then jumps after a couple of adjustments and you have to go back the other way. With the Bushnell, you adjust it and it goes where you turn it. I know people say you shouldn't go cheaper than a Bushnell Elite, but this is my experience.
 
Best glass I've seen, by far, for under $1000 (and among the best over $1000) is in the new series of Bushnell scopes, 3500, and especially the 4500 Elite. About as close to perfect as it gets.

IMHO.

Burris Signature rings only ones that go on my rifles. Talley rings that direct mount, no separate bases, would be my second pick.
 
H4831 said:
This is so typical of what happens when someone asks a question.
The question, though skimpy, is a sensible request, so he gets a bunch of sensible replies.
But so often, the OP never comes back and the thread, running off in some direction(s) dies.
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^so true. lol Thankfully for web forums...most people like the sound of their own voices, even if they fall on deaf ears. :)
 
H4831 said:
This is so typical of what happens when someone asks a question.
The question, though skimpy, is a sensible request, so he gets a bunch of sensible replies.
But so often, the OP never comes back and the thread, running off in some direction(s) dies.
Click to expand...

... maybe he needs a "time out" for poor manners !
 
H4831 said:
This is so typical of what happens when someone asks a question.
The question, though skimpy, is a sensible request, so he gets a bunch of sensible replies.
But so often, the OP never comes back and the thread, running off in some direction(s) dies.
Click to expand...

It is probably time that I reassess my responses to questions that leave too much to the imagination and offer the opportunity to allow ample opinions.
CHEAP = poor optics
AFFORDABLE = $0 - $2000
There are perhaps three theories in costing out a scope . . . one-half the value of the rifle or the value of the rifle or twice the value of the rifle.
A salesman would first ask for parameters as to what one wants to spend or establish a maximum.

Thank you H4831for stating some truths. Using the word "Skimpy" should establish guidelines for most. Perhaps the best clue was in "nice and affordable".
 
For the money...a new Nikon....but why buy new?...there are tons of great used scopes out there and prices are generally low because most people are afraid of used optics and don't know enough to check them out...If you buy relatively high end used scopes you will generally do very well...because very little goes wrong with them...do a little research and save yourself a pile of money.
 
The vx-2 is a fairly good scope. I recently bought the Zeiss terra3x for the same price and it seems to be a much better scope optically. How it will stand up I don't know.Personally I really dislike the Vortex with the crosshairs in the front focal plane.
 
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