What kind of Stripper Clips are these?
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Not a war zone; people are trying to HELP.
The 10-round magazine was standard from 1890 to the end of production. The military never made a 5-round magazine at all; the closest they ever came was the 6-rounder for the Cavalry Carbines, back about 110 years ago, and they are very rare and very expensive.
Any 5-round magazine is either a cut-down military magazine (usually made in a small shop in England) or a new-production custom magazine, also made in England, so marked and worth about double the price oif a 10-round magazine.... if you can even find one. They WERE readily available at one time, but that time was 40 years ago. With the rifles used less and less and the endless supply of new Magazines at 3 for a dollar having dried up, a military Magazine now is a $35.00 toy; it just does not pay to make them into 5-rounders to sell for the traditional $4.95.
What guys are saying is that there is no TECHNICAL or LEGAL reason to not use a 10-round Magazine, which is 50 times as easy to find. A 5-rounder today is going to set you back $75 IF you can find someone who is willing to sell one.
That's all: just folks trying to help.
The 10-round magazine was standard from 1890 to the end of production. The military never made a 5-round magazine at all; the closest they ever came was the 6-rounder for the Cavalry Carbines, back about 110 years ago, and they are very rare and very expensive.
Any 5-round magazine is either a cut-down military magazine (usually made in a small shop in England) or a new-production custom magazine, also made in England, so marked and worth about double the price oif a 10-round magazine.... if you can even find one. They WERE readily available at one time, but that time was 40 years ago. With the rifles used less and less and the endless supply of new Magazines at 3 for a dollar having dried up, a military Magazine now is a $35.00 toy; it just does not pay to make them into 5-rounders to sell for the traditional $4.95.
What guys are saying is that there is no TECHNICAL or LEGAL reason to not use a 10-round Magazine, which is 50 times as easy to find. A 5-rounder today is going to set you back $75 IF you can find someone who is willing to sell one.
That's all: just folks trying to help.
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Hope he doesn't think they need to be pinned to 5. Because that would be silly.
Define "need"....
@ 37 PATT:
Get in line, Buddy, get in line! I think there are several thousand of us looking for one o those!
I WISH I could locate one.
Too many guys in this damned line-up, and some of them been there years longer than me!
Get in line, Buddy, get in line! I think there are several thousand of us looking for one o those!
I WISH I could locate one.
Too many guys in this damned line-up, and some of them been there years longer than me!
I have never seen one.
There IS a drawing on Plate LXI, facing Page 192, Text Book of Small Arms - 1909 of an unusual British Charger. I would assume that this is The Beast.
The Charger shown has the 4 slots in the back, as with the Mark II, but the ends of the back are CONVEX rather than CONCAVE.
As well, it has two LONG oval slots followed by a SHORT oval slot in the upstanding SIDE.
The TOP EDGE of the upstanding Side is QUARTER-ROUNDED at both ends and there is a small INDENT at the LEFT end of the upstanding side, on BOTH sides of the Charger. This INDENT is -shaped and at an angle corresponding with the angle of the left-hand Cartridge as it would stand in the loaded Charger.
So that is the Beast that I'm looking for.
It was gone by the time of the Great War, superceded by the Mark II.
I actually need a couple, as I have a pair of SMLE Mark I*** rifles, a 1907 Navy (Enfield) and a 1904 Army (LSA) and would like one for each rifle.
There IS a drawing on Plate LXI, facing Page 192, Text Book of Small Arms - 1909 of an unusual British Charger. I would assume that this is The Beast.
The Charger shown has the 4 slots in the back, as with the Mark II, but the ends of the back are CONVEX rather than CONCAVE.
As well, it has two LONG oval slots followed by a SHORT oval slot in the upstanding SIDE.
The TOP EDGE of the upstanding Side is QUARTER-ROUNDED at both ends and there is a small INDENT at the LEFT end of the upstanding side, on BOTH sides of the Charger. This INDENT is -shaped and at an angle corresponding with the angle of the left-hand Cartridge as it would stand in the loaded Charger.
So that is the Beast that I'm looking for.
It was gone by the time of the Great War, superceded by the Mark II.
I actually need a couple, as I have a pair of SMLE Mark I*** rifles, a 1907 Navy (Enfield) and a 1904 Army (LSA) and would like one for each rifle.
If you have a clear pic I can look around.
Ya know what they say, a picture's worth 1000 word's.
AAAH but Smellie I don't want to stand in line!!! LOL
I kind of figured it would be something like that, oh well, one can still dream. I found a bunch of chargers in Kuwait of all places after the First Gulf War and there was a wide variety of Mk II, Mk III and Mk IV chargers. Another ready made mini collection with all the different manufacturers.
I kind of figured it would be something like that, oh well, one can still dream. I found a bunch of chargers in Kuwait of all places after the First Gulf War and there was a wide variety of Mk II, Mk III and Mk IV chargers. Another ready made mini collection with all the different manufacturers.
For those of you seeking details of the Mk.I Charger, here is a photo of a Mk.I, Mk.II, Mk.III, and 2 variations of the Mk.IV:
The Mk.I was short lived and rather difficult to find today.
I'm always seeking variations of .303 links, chargers, clips, boxes, packets, cartons, crates, documentation, etc. Also seeking any PIAT stuff, including photographs and manuals, etc. I would be eager to discuss any such items you may run across in your travels.
The Mk.I was short lived and rather difficult to find today.
I'm always seeking variations of .303 links, chargers, clips, boxes, packets, cartons, crates, documentation, etc. Also seeking any PIAT stuff, including photographs and manuals, etc. I would be eager to discuss any such items you may run across in your travels.
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...so, the OP pissed off? Still looking for 5rd mags? Did he make his own or is he hunting single shot style with live rounds between his fingers on the forehand? 
...perhaps we'll never know...back to the interesting stuff.
...perhaps we'll never know...back to the interesting stuff.
The 10 round magazine was introduced with the Lee-Medford Magazine Rifle Mk II on 30 January 1892.
Charger loading was adopted with the Number 1 Mark 1 on the 23 December 1902, or if you prefer;
“ Rifle, Short, Magazine, Le-Enfield, Mark 1”
From the Lee-Enfield series by Alan M. Petrillo
Charger loading was adopted with the Number 1 Mark 1 on the 23 December 1902, or if you prefer;
“ Rifle, Short, Magazine, Le-Enfield, Mark 1”
From the Lee-Enfield series by Alan M. Petrillo
Kinda odd, I think he took his hunting rifle and stomped off.
