What magnification scope for Savage 10FP in .223? Which TPS rings?

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I am looking at both a Mueller Tactical which is 8.5-25x44 and a Bushnell Legend which is 5-15x40.

Which magnification level would you guys recommend? Is 25 necessary?

Also, which TPS rings are best for this setup on a TPS base? I know I want steel, but there are HRS, TRS and the W series... not sure which would be best

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
 
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XP Tactical Base with TSR rings. Someone here said that TPS's aluminum rings are stronger that the steel one's - lighter and a few dollars cheaper.
 
It's only a range gun, used mostly within 200yds...

The aluminum ones are stronger than the steel ones? Anyone have any proof to back this up? :eek:
 
My wife has the 5.5-15 Legend with mil-dot scope on her savage 10, It works fine out to 500 but is a pain to dial in easier to figure out where your holdovers are with this type of scope than to be dialing in all the time, but as you start increasing your range, or even if you are into dialing in your range a target turret type scope is going to serve you far better. On our serious rifles we run the Leupold Mark 4's. I'm not sure if the Legend is of a quality to hold up to dialing in comeups and windage on a regular basis. I would recomend as I think others might the Bushnell 3200 10X with Mil-dot and target turrets if your looking for a good buy. I havent personaly run one but have heard nothing but good reviews on them.

Just an opinion
 
Rule of thumb is a minimum of 3X for every 100 yds you shoot.

The Mueller is a good choice, you can always throttle back the magnification, but you can't boost a lower power scope. The Mueller also has 1/8th minute clicks which is a nice option for longer shooting. I have one and while not the best scope I have, I think they are the best bang for the buck by far. It is my varmint scope on a .204
 
Being new to shooting, I don't understand why someone would want a fixed power scope like the 3200 10x40 (which DOES look sweet with those big fat tactical turret knobs), when you could have an adjustable power with an AO.

Anyone willing to explain this to me? Would it not be way clearer to get say a Legend 5-15x40 or Mueller 8.5-25x40 and have all that extra power and focusing abililty?

I'm genuinely asking, as I'm sure theres a good reason, I just dont konw it. :D
 
Mainly its a good magnification for shooting at. The us military uses remingtons mars rail (which tps is making a version of for almost half the price when i talked to them a few days ago) and a 10x fixed scope to 1000yards. That said you dont get the best stuff, but by far not the worst. Open turrets are a dream to use especially when you can hear them click for come up's. If your target shooting its also nice to be able to "zero" your settings. Its all in how much money you have to put into it. Or want to (thank you master card)
 
CanuckShooter said:
Being new to shooting, I don't understand why someone would want a fixed power scope like the 3200 10x40 (which DOES look sweet with those big fat tactical turret knobs), when you could have an adjustable power with an AO.

Anyone willing to explain this to me? Would it not be way clearer to get say a Legend 5-15x40 or Mueller 8.5-25x40 and have all that extra power and focusing abililty?

I'm genuinely asking, as I'm sure theres a good reason, I just dont konw it. :D
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Here's the reasons I would go fixed power over variable.

1. scopes at high magnification are prone to mirage
2. with high power scopes you are adjusting paralax where as with a fixed its not an issue...just focus and shoot.
3 If you use mil-dots for rangeing or holdover and they are not on the first focal plane the distance between dots changes with magnification and throughs out your rangeing accuracy such as the Legend scopes and bushnell elite series.
4 A 10 power is more than enough to get ya out to 1000 and then some.
5 less moving parts means less things to go wrong.

All that being said, my favorite scope is a Leupold Mark 4 with TMR 6.5-20X, on hot days the magnification is dialed back to about 10-12X for long range to try and help eliminate heat mirage, and the rectical is on the first focal plane so stays constant through all magnifications.

If your going to get a variable spend the bucks and get a good one, if you want a cheaper, no hassle scope that will get you out to a thousand go a fixed power. But thats what works for the way I shoot and what I shoot, different diciplines may have diffent needs so find your sport and see what works for others.

Just an opinion...hope it helps
 
Variable scopes require many more glass elements, thus the contrast, clarity, and light weight are more difficult to preserve/acheive. There isn't a variable scope that does not have some degree of pincushion or barrel distortion if you were to scrutinize the image. Because it is the nature of shooting to centre the image, this is not as noticable, but pan left and right slowly while looking at vertical lines (like buildings or power poles) with your scope and you will see the distortion. The higher the quality, the less obvious this distortion will be.

Fixed scopes will have superior light transmission over variables scopes and generally have a higer degree of resolution (difficult to quantify unless you had two scopes set up to view the same thing side by side) and contrast.

Variable scopes are alot like zoom lenses on cameras in that people use them at one end or the other and seldom in between. The choice is nice though, and being able to find your target on low power and then pull it in is a nice option.

Unlike camera film, our eyes compensate for a great deal of the image imperfections that are there with scopes but that we do not see or notice. Those imperfections are there though.

I guess it is what the market demands, but there is nothing wrong with a fixed scope at all. In spite of singing the praises of fixed power, I admit I do not own any...
 
Well written Obtunded the other major factor to considder here is Canuck shooter is staying within 200yrds. Even if reaching to 500 I would stay with a fixed 10X. Variables have thier place, but I would say for your aplication the 10X would be the cats arse.

Just an opinion
 
Cool, thanks guys!! So hard to ignore the absolute rave reviews on that 3200 10x.... and come on, the exposed big fat turrets???? It's so (at risk of sounding like a mall ninja).... sniper-esque!! :D :p
 
Are fixed power scopes cheaper in general?

I would also think that fixed power scope is lighter as well since there's less glass in them.

This discussion is similar to camera guys arguing about prime vs. zoom lens. No matter how advance zoom lens get, prime lens still have its place in the market even today.
 
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