What makes a shotgun tactical?

[Jettzilla]

I agree with Greenhorse for most of the points. It's certainly not neccessarily black (Marine models). Tactical implies firepower, so large mag capacity is understood (You don't go all 'tactical' on waterfowl with a o/u). Shorter length would be a parameter. Basically close quarters design. What else am I missing?

 

[Canuck44]

I agree with Greenhorse for most of the points. It's certainly not neccessarily black (Marine models). Tactical implies firepower, so large mag capacity is understood (You don't go all 'tactical' on waterfowl with a o/u). Shorter length would be a parameter. Basically close quarters design. What else am I missing?

Marketing and a heat shield on top of the barrel.

Take Care

Bob

 

[TDC]

How does this test reliability?

Greg

Really, you have to ask? I can guarantee a revolver will choke long before it reaches the 500 round mark and will definitely fail before a quality auto.

Well if I have a choice of shooters I'll take Jerry Miculek with his revolver against you any day of the week. I'll bet money you can't fire off 12 rounds from your Glock with a reload in under 3 seconds.

Something that we Seniors or near seniors should consider is our wives. My wife is an excellent shot but a broken right wrist and age has left her in a position where it is difficult if not impossible to rack the slide on any of my pistols. Answer - a good revolver. Point and shoot. I know my friend TDC thinks revolvers are crap but he is young and will learn that you have to dance with the girl you brought and Coke isn't the only drink at the soda shack. Some prefer Pepsi.

Take Care

Bob

Bob,

No cheating, I offered the challenge to those on CGN, not paid professionals who shoot and practice everyday. I admire Jerry's abilities but how many people can honestly say they possess a similar level of skill professional or otherwise?

You make a valid point regarding injuries, stature, and those long in the years. Any gun is better than no gun whether it be for competition or personal defense. Where ever possible an auto is most desirable.

There isn't much I agree with TDC on but the reliability issued was solved years ago. Revolvers are not as reliable as pistols under field conditions. Any amount of sand, mud or crud will prevent the cylinder from turning. The US Military after extensive testing over 100 years ago chose the 1911 design because it was far more reliable than the revolvers of the day and not much has changed since then. I doubt there are many revolvers that would shoot 5,000 rds of ammo without cleaning and still function. Most quality pistols will do that and more.... and have.

All that said, where I disagree with TDC is revolvers have a place in the sporting/self defense community and sell well because of that. I love the ones I own but none would replace my CZ 85 Combat if I only had one to keep.

Take Care

Bob
ps I don't own a Sig or Glock but if I did they would become one of three pistols I would choose from.

See, I knew we'd agree on something eventually

TDC

 

[conscript88]

It's tactical if it properly suited for the job it's curently doing. In terms of posting pics of them on the internet, It should just appear to be a large plastic box with no shotgun in sight.

 

[870P]

I'm starting to rethink my views towards tactical shotguns.

I find my hit probability at speed even in tactical type shooting is significantly better with a sporting length barrel and that the only real advantages that a riot length setup brings is handiness in tight quarters and ease of transport.

And even then, it's only when you get into 14" or shorter barrels are you talking a big difference there IMO.

I still like my shorties for hiking but I'd prefer something longer for shooting, any kind of shooting.

 

[CatfishSteve]

It's set up for shooting people not birdies

 

[albertacoyotecaller]

TDC,

I am sorry but I am still not following your logic. My carry gun for work is a 629 and it has fired more than 500 rounds without choking. Do I have a magical revolver?

If my 629 can chew through these 500 rounds and any of my semis can do the same than how can I come to the conclusion that the semi is more reliable on that test alone?

So if Bob shoots 500 rounds through my 629 while you shoot 500 rounds through one my autos and Bob finishs first, is the 629 more reliable or vice verca?

If they both chew through the 500 rounds without a hiccup, are they both reliable?

Just because the person with the semi auto finishes first on 500 rounds does not equate to reliabilty.


Greg