What makes glocks so popular????

Glock_2010 said:
I own 2 Glocks - 17 & 34. Both are 9MM. I thought it was the best pistol I ever own.

I reload myself. And is now active member of the CDP/IDPA.

But last week, a IPSC guy handed me his CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow(Stock).....

It was amazing accurate and the recoil is minimal compared with my two Glocks. The guy told me due to the weight of a Glock is all on the top portion of the pistol; the bottom part seems too light and makes the pistol not too balance. The muzzle flip is big.

I am not so sure, so I just try it out myself with his CZ pistol. Shooting the 9mm with his pistol is just like shooting a .22
The front sight recover faster than my Glocks. The pistol just come back down by itself without any efford.

I will be ordering my CZ soon. But I am still a fan of Glock. Because it is so simple, realiable, and price are reasonable.:)
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The mass of the Glock is indeed primarily located in the slide as the frame is polymer. This will present the feeling of a top heavy pistol. The cure is proper technique and not concerning oneself with the "feel". The low bore axis is where the rubber meets the road. Muzzle flip is all but non existent provided the shooter does his/her part. The Shadow is a heavy pistol which aids in absorbing felt recoil. The difference between the two is not in peformance, its in the reliability. The Glock is a service pistol, the CZ is a sport pistol.

TDC
 
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TDC said:
The difference between the two is not in peformance, its in the reliability. The Glock is a service pistol, the CZ is a sport pistol.

TDC
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The CZ Shadow is a sports pistol (a variant of the 75B), other CZ 75B offspring are some of the widest held police pistols in the world.

The Glock is losing market share to the M&P in the US TDC. Why is it your answer to poor design is always "The cure is proper technique " translated "adjust what you are comfortable with and use this method or the pistol won't perform". As Wes used to say reading your posts makes most folks dumber.

Glocks are great pistols but for civilians they are not cheap. All you have to do out of the box is replace the sights and trigger group and the stock Glock is just great or you can use "proper technique" and make do with poor sights and a lousy trigger.

They do go bang most of the time and for some that is all that is required.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
The CZ Shadow is a sports pistol (a variant of the 75B), other CZ 75B offspring are some of the widest held police pistols in the world.

The Glock is losing market share to the M&P in the US TDC. Why is it your answer to poor design is always "The cure is proper technique " translated "adjust what you are comfortable with and use this method or the pistol won't perform". As Wes used to say reading your posts makes most folks dumber.

Glocks are great pistols but for civilians they are not cheap. All you have to do out of the box is replace the sights and trigger group and the stock Glock is just great or you can use "proper technique" and make do with poor sights and a lousy trigger.

They do go bang most of the time and for some that is all that is required.

Take Care

Bob
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No doubt Glock is losing some market to the M&P, its the second attempt by S&W to copy the Glock. That being said, I doubt Glock is overly concerned by it. As for the CZ, it isn't even in the same league as Glock, SIG or HK for that matter. You said it, the CZ is a "sports" pistol.

As for my advice, its not about the gear. The shooter is the important factor. Many fail to see this or wish to ignore the fact that they are the weak link in the system. Nowhere did I say that any pistol will fail to perform without proper technique. Ones results will obviously vary depending on the technique used.

The factory sights aren't the greatest and being plastic don't hold up well to use and abuse. The stock trigger is fine.

Glocks that are properly cared for will go bang everytime, which is important to all not most. A pistol that feels right with a custom tuned trigger and wizzy sights ain't worth sh*t if it doesn't function..

TDC
 
TDC said:
You said it, the CZ is a "sports" pistol.

TDC
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You must of had a major problem is school with reading comprehension skills TDC. Go back and read the entire sentence ...again.

Have you ever hald a a P-01 in your hands or the 75D Compact for that matter? How about the basic 75B. This is the gun Saddam Hussein carried and had a gold engraved model made. He also did up another favourite ...an Ak - 47 in solid gold.

A properly prepared Glock will go bang everytime...really. Are you saying that is unique to Glocks. I have stock M&P that hasn't had a thing done to it and it goes bang everytime...no preparation required and ths sights are metal not cheap plastic and the mags for the M&P are steel, too. It does recoil more than my CZ Shadow so when I play IPSC it stays home and ths Shadow goes to play.

For some, accuracy goes hand in hand with reliability...you can have both.

SIGs win more than their share of military contracts when price is not the sole consideration. Why? Because they make a pistol that fullfills the military criteria and "cheap" or "less expensive" is not always the driving consideration.

Take Care

Bob
 
TDC said:
The mass of the Glock is indeed primarily located in the slide as the frame is polymer. This will present the feeling of a top heavy pistol. The cure is proper technique and not concerning oneself with the "feel". The low bore axis is where the rubber meets the road. Muzzle flip is all but non existent provided the shooter does his/her part. The Shadow is a heavy pistol which aids in absorbing felt recoil. The difference between the two is not in peformance, its in the reliability. The Glock is a service pistol, the CZ is a sport pistol.

TDC
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I probably drink as much Glock kool-aid as you but the reliability of the CZ is up there with the Glock in my opinion.
 
Just came back from Glock Day at Target Sports. The 17 is being sold for $625 and the 34 was$808 I believe. Comes with a free range bag also.
 
Glocks are a great gun to have when you invite nongun owning friends to shoot. Saves mileage on my HK's!!!!

I have a Glock 19 and it's very reliable. My small hands do much better with a HK P2000.

I will say the Glock recoil spring is not as strong as the HK's P2000 and thus can use a wider range of ammo right out of the box, even limp wristing. The HK needs hot ammo until the spring breaks in.
 
Canuck44 said:
Have you ever hald a a P-01 in your hands or the 75D Compact for that matter? How about the basic 75B. This is the gun Saddam Hussein carried and had a gold engraved model made. He also did up another favourite ...an Ak - 47 in solid gold.
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And when Saddam was on the run of his life, hiding in a hole in Tikrit, he had with him $750,000 cash in $100 bills, two AK-47 machine guns, a briefcase of documents, and a Glock.
 
Glocks are fabulous guns, some would say designed more for function than form, I dont know why but I have always liked the look of them. There are certainly more refined pistols out there but the Glock is fairly fool-resistant. The Tenifer finish makes them pretty resilient over the years too.
 
I had a Glock 17C....and I loved that pistol. For some reason I had a brain fart one day and I sold it. Now I'm going to have to find another one because I loved ramming that pistol into that cheap kydex holster I had. For me a Glock is like an off road vehicle. You're not scared to bang it around or drop it......and never clean it for 1000's of rounds. I'd be guessing but I had close to 3000 rounds through it and it failed twice because of cycling issues with one batch of my reloads. They're awesome and for the price everyone should have one. My next one will be in 45acp or 10mm.
 
Today was a Glock day at the Target range. 5 minutes from my house, so I have decided to go. Took my uncle with me and another friend. Last time my uncle shot a handgun was 52 years ago, so I figured that Glock would be a good start for him. Pretty much foolproof. I had a G17 about 7 years ago, never liked it compared to my Sig and sold it. Since then I have been pretty much shooting rifles, so I have decided to see what the new Glocks are like. The place was actually packed. They probably made more money in one day that they make in a whole year. I shot one in .40 and one in .45. I was pleasantly surprised how accurate the guns were compared to my old G17. I was hitting mostly 10, 9, and 8 from 20 yards. So no complaints in that department. However the grip was still very uncomfortable. I felt like I was holding one of those first cell phones. But the worst feature I would say was a trigger. Maybe I just needed some time to get used to it, but I just could not develop a feel for when it was going to fire. I realize that I am used to slow one handed bullseye shooting, and this gun is designed for a different purpose, so I would say that as a service pistol it is probably very good and plenty accurate, but for a recreational shooting as a hobby I would choose something else.
 
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