What makes the NEA102 nonrestricted?
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None of the parts are interchangable with the AR15. Parts are larger or completely different. Different type of bolt. Rate of fire is different and the NEA102 will not come in a 5.56 or .223 varient because the 5.56 is a military round. I probably missed a few other things.
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Its because a .308 is a lot safer round than a .223!!
Lots of wrong info in that post.
onetwentyish
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So much 
in this thread.
in this thread.
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onetwentyish
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Its a 'clear as mud' situation.
You need to look at the rifles develpmental path (lineage), timeline, and also what the manufacturer has released in terms of statements and documents on the platform. Its like a game of chess and there is a lot of posturing involved.
You need to look at the rifles develpmental path (lineage), timeline, and also what the manufacturer has released in terms of statements and documents on the platform. Its like a game of chess and there is a lot of posturing involved.
Might seem complex since many CGNers make it out to be, but it's relatively simple:
All firearms start as non restricted
Then apply these rules:
Restricted if:
If it's a semi auto AND barrel length under a certain length (18.5") or overall length under a certain length (26")
If it's a manual action AND overall length is under a certain length (26")
Is named specifically in a special order in council (ie AR-15, which while meets non restricted classification, is named specifically as a restricted firearm)
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/restr-eng.htm
Prohibited if:
If it's a firearm with a barrel shorter than 105 mm or an overall length shorter than 660mm
If it's firearm that is longer than 660mm but has a barrel length shorter than 457 mm
capable of full auto fire or easily convertible to full auto fire
Is named specifically in a special order in council (ie all AK variants regardless of semi auto only design)
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/prohibited-prohibe-eng.htm
Spirit of the law: Not easily concealable guns are non restricted with leeway given to manual actions. Concealable guns are restricted. Full auto guns are prohibited. Plus special exceptions like the AR-15 and AK
NEA102 starts off non restricted. Doesn't meet any of the rules that put it in restricted or prohibited including the special exception of AR-15 variant, because it's not an AR-15 variant.
All firearms start as non restricted
Then apply these rules:
Restricted if:
If it's a semi auto AND barrel length under a certain length (18.5") or overall length under a certain length (26")
If it's a manual action AND overall length is under a certain length (26")
Is named specifically in a special order in council (ie AR-15, which while meets non restricted classification, is named specifically as a restricted firearm)
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/restr-eng.htm
Prohibited if:
If it's a firearm with a barrel shorter than 105 mm or an overall length shorter than 660mm
If it's firearm that is longer than 660mm but has a barrel length shorter than 457 mm
capable of full auto fire or easily convertible to full auto fire
Is named specifically in a special order in council (ie all AK variants regardless of semi auto only design)
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/prohibited-prohibe-eng.htm
Spirit of the law: Not easily concealable guns are non restricted with leeway given to manual actions. Concealable guns are restricted. Full auto guns are prohibited. Plus special exceptions like the AR-15 and AK
NEA102 starts off non restricted. Doesn't meet any of the rules that put it in restricted or prohibited including the special exception of AR-15 variant, because it's not an AR-15 variant.
onetwentyish
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In simple terms here are the facts:
-The original AR10-2 (which i might add is Non-restricted) came before the AR15.
-The OIC (Order In Council) restricting AR's only covers the AR15 and it's variants.
-Most if not nearly all modern AR10 are represented by the manufactures as being based off of the AR15 and have been upscaled.
As you can picture, this draws the rifle's developmental path into question: is it based on the AR10-2 or is it based on and upscaled from an AR15?
-The original AR10-2 (which i might add is Non-restricted) came before the AR15.
-The OIC (Order In Council) restricting AR's only covers the AR15 and it's variants.
-Most if not nearly all modern AR10 are represented by the manufactures as being based off of the AR15 and have been upscaled.
As you can picture, this draws the rifle's developmental path into question: is it based on the AR10-2 or is it based on and upscaled from an AR15?
onetwentyish
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What he wanted explained was the one thing you did not explain. Lol
It's design predates the AR-15 so it can not be classed as a variant, the barrel is long enough, and I guess the lab couldn't get it to fire full auto with a popsicle stick or piece of string.
The only thing that's important is that it is non restricted, don't try to make sense of anything the firearms lab does, just accept it and smile in situations like this and curse them when they make stupid decisions that screw us over.
The only thing that's important is that it is non restricted, don't try to make sense of anything the firearms lab does, just accept it and smile in situations like this and curse them when they make stupid decisions that screw us over.
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and I was thinking it was because the RCMP lad tech, forgot to take off his rose coloured glasses that day!
Now that you mention it....
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