What Milsurp do I want?

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Hello, I have owned a lot of guns but never been a milsurp guy, unless bubbaing the hell out of a Mosin in my early 20's counts.

I am thinking of adding a mauser to my safe.

I have a few criteria I am hoping to fill:

- carbine length barrel (20ish)
- not made in the third reich by slave labourers (this one is firm, mazel)
- In 8x57 (I am really invested in 8x57 and 8x57 r components)

I know a vz33 would fit these, and frankly be perfect, but I assume they are difficult to obtain and expensive. I wouldn't mind "shooter grade", but would prefer not "used in the tropics and put away in a seaside warehouse with no grease" grade...

Thanks!
 
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Best of luck in your search. There was one on the auction lately that would fit your needs I guess. FN 1952 in 8x57. Bore wasn't perfect, but otherwise it looked like a decent rifle.
 
One of those with the 17.5 inch barrel would be really cool.

More looking for models to be on the lookout for that guns for sale. Thanks for adding another one to the list!
 
You're really hamstringing yourself with your criteria.

G33/40
VZ33

Other than not being 8x57, the Argentine 1909 Carbine may be what best suits the remainder of your criteria. Or the Brazilian FN 1922, but again, not 8x57 and hard to find in nice shape. The Mexican 1936 is nice as well but the caliber comes up again.

You find that pre WWI rifles are the best, then interwar/early WWII then post WWII.

Pre WWI German and Austrian rifles are the best, post WWII Yugo are the bottom. The pre WWII 98k is a beautiful rifle.

The shorties are too short for my liking.
 
I suppose if I had to drop one criteria it would be the carbine requirement. But as this would solely be a "fun gun" I think it would be neat. I've always liked short barrels. More useful for the imminent apocalypse when I have to go full road warrior in my subaru forester too :dancingbanana:

Not really into the Yugos.

Will have to keep my eyes peeled for the Dutch east indies (sounds rusty), Persian and other FN carbines.

Other chamberings might work as it probably wouldn't see a ton of rounds. But I'm on a bit of a standardization kick and I'm waiting on a custom 8x57 hunting rifle and have an 8x57 JRS kipplauf adding another intermediate cartridge and it's reloading components would mess with my current "strategy".
 
I doubt you'll use the same brass and bullets in a custom hunting rifle (and certainly not the 57R) so standardization may be illusory.

Get an Argentine 1909; buy an ammo can, 500 pieces of Prvi brass, 500 Speer 180 311 bullets, load with whatever you use for powder and primers in the 8x57.

Shoot those 500, then get 500 more bullets, repeat as many times as you want.
 
I have scads of privi bullets for plinking and was thinking of using brass at the end of its service life, but your point is not unreasonable

I would never buy 500 pieces of brass though lol
 
Rebore and remove the mag spacer.

Though the FR7 is a nicer and rarer rifle.

The Portuguese M904/39 is very nice (and in beautiful condition) or the Hungarian 43M, though these have the "been there, done that look" and are harder to come by.
 
^ as both a mauser and mannlicher fan I've always been intrigued by both those models. A nice sporterized vergueiro would be cool
 
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^ as both a mauser and mannlicher fan I've always been intrigued by both those models. A nice sporterized vergueiro would be cool
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You're much more likely to find a complete Vergueiro than a sportered rifle.

If the bores are VG-Exc in both the 6.5 and 8mm version they can be some of the most accurate milsurps out there. Highly underated surplus firearms with all sorts of combat history.
 
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