Trimmer 905
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LOL,so,I hope you set him straight about the .270Win. We've taken 13 Moose in the last 15 years and over half fell to the .270Win. Three fell to a .30-06Sprg............mine.
What moose cartridge?
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LOL,so,I hope you set him straight about the .270Win. We've taken 13 Moose in the last 15 years and over half fell to the .270Win. Three fell to a .30-06Sprg............mine.
nomad 68
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Really not sure how to take that.....but I am leaning toward condescending.
Edit:yup, after reading it a couple of more times......definitely condescending. Along with a couple more adjectives. Not worth an argument or internet spat. But it is worth the ignore list......Adios!!
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Please explain.
TriggerTime
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I'll take a stab at that.
For a given terminal energy, effective at greater ranges.
1500 ft lbs at 450 yds for a 150 gr, and 520 yds for a 180gr.
There's a point where I have to say 'that's far enough' and for me it's within 300 yds so a 308 is good enough for me
But if you like a 50BMG can do that at 2km
I prefer the .308 simply because I'm most comfortable with my .308 rifle (742 rem). Like others have mentioned, knowing your rifle, and practicing with it are key. Im not a ballistics expert, but I can tell you that .308 is a responsible and effective choice for moose. Not a real technical answer, just my experience.
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Over the last 45 years a lot of moose have ended up in my freezer using a 270, 130 grain. I have always thought moose have been given too much credit on how hard they are to put down. Now I have not been to the Yukon or Alaska where the real big boys live but I just think with proper shot placement they are yours. Use your 308 and go get that moose.
Well, he said anything. If you have a moose broadside at 150 yards and shoot it in the heart with a 308. Will a 300 wm do it "better"?
Potato boy
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My 308 with 200 gr SGK BT, retains over 1800fps at 400yds, that's plenty of punch for moose and reliable bullet expansion, many ignore this 1800fps threshold focusing only on energy. That being said , most moose are killed at well under 400. GTG
Will echo that 308 is plenty for moose. I personally use a 7.08 and not one moose I have ever shot ever got up and complained that I didn't use enough gun.
The largest moose I have ever seen taken down by one shot fell where it stood with one shot from a lever action chambered in 45 colt but that was a good 15 years back, long before moose started wearing body armour requiring calibers ending in "magnum" shot from a rifle requiring a couple of porters to hump it through the woods.
The largest moose I have ever seen taken down by one shot fell where it stood with one shot from a lever action chambered in 45 colt but that was a good 15 years back, long before moose started wearing body armour requiring calibers ending in "magnum" shot from a rifle requiring a couple of porters to hump it through the woods.
BigUglyMan
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This. A 308 is fine but I'd rather have a sore ass than hunt with my target rifle.
shootist1876
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Yes, everyone knows that a 21st century moose can only be killed with a minimum of .375 H&H.
Anything less just bounces off.
The 308 will work fine , good shot placement and you will enjoy a freezer full of moose.Id keep the ranges sensible same as any caliber ... If you have to take a 500 yd shot there might be better tools but if you need to shoot a moose at 500yds your missing the best part of moose hunting .. The stalk.
The Outsider
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.308, 30-06 and 300 WM will shoot the same 30 cal bullet, to certain degrees.
the kinetic energy that creates knockdown power is based on velocity and weight of the bullet,
given that all 3 cartridges shoot the same bullet to different velocities, they should perform the same way at different ranges, more or less.
The 30-06 is about 200 fps faster than .308, and 300 WM is about 200 fps faster than 30-06.
They all loose about 200 fps velocity every 100 yards.
So what the 308 does at 100 yrds, the 30-06 does at 200 yrds, and the 300 wm does at 300 yrds.
Basically each step up in cartridge gives you another 100 yards of effective range.
If your moose hunt takes place in dense woods at close range,you probably won't need the longer range capability,
so it all depends on the situation.
For me though, I'd prefer not to limit myself.
Where I hunt, I'm more comfortable taking my '06 or my 300 WM, loaded up with a premium 180 - 200 grain bullet.
I don't want an animal running away after it's been hit.
For moose, I use a "heavy for caliber" bullet, preferably a bonded core or copper bullet.
If you're comfortable hunting moose with your .308, and you can put the bullet where it counts, good luck.
I know of an "old timer" who has shot dozens of moose with a 300 Savage, and who knows how many have been killed with 30-30's.
Then again, some guys swear by the 7 MM or even the 338......
the kinetic energy that creates knockdown power is based on velocity and weight of the bullet,
given that all 3 cartridges shoot the same bullet to different velocities, they should perform the same way at different ranges, more or less.
The 30-06 is about 200 fps faster than .308, and 300 WM is about 200 fps faster than 30-06.
They all loose about 200 fps velocity every 100 yards.
So what the 308 does at 100 yrds, the 30-06 does at 200 yrds, and the 300 wm does at 300 yrds.
Basically each step up in cartridge gives you another 100 yards of effective range.
If your moose hunt takes place in dense woods at close range,you probably won't need the longer range capability,
so it all depends on the situation.
For me though, I'd prefer not to limit myself.
Where I hunt, I'm more comfortable taking my '06 or my 300 WM, loaded up with a premium 180 - 200 grain bullet.
I don't want an animal running away after it's been hit.
For moose, I use a "heavy for caliber" bullet, preferably a bonded core or copper bullet.
If you're comfortable hunting moose with your .308, and you can put the bullet where it counts, good luck.
I know of an "old timer" who has shot dozens of moose with a 300 Savage, and who knows how many have been killed with 30-30's.
Then again, some guys swear by the 7 MM or even the 338......
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Have shot them win a model 70 in .300 mag , a BLR in 308 ans and i know use a win model 70 in .270. I try to practice as much as i can and use good judgement in my shots. The moose i shot never knew what hit them. A far as bullet choice i shot 168 grain ballistic silvertips in the BLR because it performed well accuracy wise with this load, With the .300 i used 180 grain federal blue box . I now hunt with the .270 and 140 grain Nosler partitions. Just my two cents.
Best cartridge is always a question of druthers. If you aren't hunting at extreme ranges, 308 is more than sufficient. I've seen literally dozens of mosse drop within 50 feet when shot with a 30-30 with good old fashioned 170 gr. soft points. If you are prepared to spend tons of money practising for extreme range shots (and there are ethical considerations), then yeah, a .30 belted magnum might be good, but out to 300 yards, a 308 will do whatever a 300 Whizbang will do. If you are looking for something with more punch, then I'd go to something that makes a bigger hole - 338, 375, 9.3. If your shooting will be close(r) range, then you can't go wrong with 45-70, 444 or 450. I've found moose much easier to kill than deer. My personal theory (for what it's worth), is that moose aren't all strung out on adrenaline the way deer are.
As far as the ethical considerations to extreme ranges, the thing is that if it takes your bullet even a second to get there, a critter covers enough ground in a second to turn a killing heart shot into a gut shot. bears are a little different, because if you see them feeding, they are more likely to stay put for a bit.
