What new over/under for a cheap guy

Covey Ridge said:
But when you got serious about your shooting you got yourself a good used citori:D
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But when you got serious about your shooting you got yourself a good used citori. Just had to say that again. ;) What is it you find so special about these non Belgian Browning's?
 
Win/64 said:
But when you got serious about your shooting you got yourself a good used citori. Just had to say that again. ;) What is it you find so special about these non Belgian Browning's?
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Hey I only mentioned citori becuse maple sea had suggested one and then Jamie Hunt started singing the praises of the Yildez:puke: when I know that he once told me that his Yildez would not make the grade for any amount of shooting and that I know he shoots a well worn citori. Shoots it very well, I might add:D

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I have owned both the Belgian and the Japanese Brownings and I like the citori the best. Never had one crap out on me! yet! Can not say that for the superposed. There was a time when John Browning decided to manufacture his great creation that some were disapointed by the made in Belgium marked on the gun. At that time, made in b was like made in China or Turkey is today. The made in B superposed was great in its day but is only thought of as better by those who are lost in or pine away for the good old days. Today will be looked back as the good old days for many. Sorry for the hijack!
 
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Claybuster said:
..... Lots of guys show up at the club with a new (insert name of low priced gun here), sometimes they brag about how much they saved. The guys with the Citoris and Berettas just smile politely.

There is low price and there is value. They aren't often the same thing.
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I have been looking around at a few models. The Regular priced O/U's, the High Priced ones and the total rip-off priced ones. (why call them value and cheap?? $700 is not cheap for a firearm, certainly not cheap for a pair or empty tubes)

There is no way a O/U can be worth $6000 more than another. The people in this skeet/trap sport are not thinking straight.

What if Remington took there 700SPS added some fancy pretty doo-dads and charged $5000 more, the 700SPS grade IV and told every one it was so much better than the Value Rifle.
Is everyone going to start calling every rifle under $5000 cheap and value rifles??

I think it silly. I understand quality, fit and finish and materials used are important. But not $6000 difference. Even $1500.

Almost seems like the sport is more of a standing there showing off your piece and bragging about how great it is becuase it cost you $X amount.

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Assyrian said:
I have been looking around at a few models. The Regular priced O/U's, the High Priced ones and the total rip-off priced ones. (why call them value and cheap?? $700 is not cheap for a firearm, certainly not cheap for a pair or empty tubes)

There is no way a O/U can be worth $6000 more than another. The people in this skeet/trap sport are not thinking straight.

What if Remington took there 700SPS added some fancy pretty doo-dads and charged $5000 more, the 700SPS grade IV and told every one it was so much better than the Value Rifle.
Is everyone going to start calling every rifle under $5000 cheap and value rifles??

I think it silly. I understand quality, fit and finish and materials used are important. But not $6000 difference. Even $1500.

Almost seems like the sport is more of a standing there showing off your piece and bragging about how great it is becuase it cost you $X amount.

:jerkit:
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Your mind seems pretty made up on the issue.

For some people, no explanation is necessary and for others no explanation will suffice. Either you understand why a shotgun can be worth that much or you don't.

If you don't understand why a gun might be worth $6,000 more and refuse to acknowledge the possibility then you aren't worth the time trying to explain it.

Enjoy your $700 shotgun or whatever you end up with. The target has no idea how much your gun cost only whether the pellets are on the the mark.

BTW, the best value in a clay target gun IMO is the Beretta 391 semi-auto but this thread is about o/u.
 
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Claybuster said:
If you don't understand why a gun might be worth $6,000 more and refuse to acknowledge the possibility then you aren't worth the time trying to explain it.
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I understand why a value of a firearm can be raised with 'craftsmanship', fit-finish, quality of materials, etc.
If a small company is chopping down their own trees for stocks and forging their own special recievers, hey, I can see the $5000.
But I can't agree those factors come into play with a mass produced shotgun.

I'm going to rock the high house with my $700 O/U, 'cause that's how I Roll.

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I totally agree with Kenny's take on things. The best thing a cheap O/U does is make you appreciate why you should have spent more in the first place.
 
Assyrian said:
I have been looking around at a few models. The Regular priced O/U's, the High Priced ones and the total rip-off priced ones. (why call them value and cheap?? $700 is not cheap for a firearm, certainly not cheap for a pair or empty tubes)

There is no way a O/U can be worth $6000 more than another. The people in this skeet/trap sport are not thinking straight.
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Please post a pic of your $700 O/U after 10,000 rounds on the Trap range. You get what you pay for. :)
 
well i am buying a bakal for a good price from a gentleman on here NIB, i am not a expert but i figure the bakal will do well for upland hunting and the odd day on the clays, if i realy take to clays then maybe a berreta or browning will be in the horizon
 
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One of the fellow shooters at the club here, bought a $600 mossberg o/u this year and has had fireing pins and ejectors broke already....I'm thinkng you get what you pay for...I'll spend the extra money when it comes time and buy quality....It's worth it in the end..good luck with your decision!!
 
Shot a guerini today for my first time (summit) in 28 and chamber mates for 410. If you were to shoot the $500 cheapo and then shoot what I had the chance to shoot....I'll save my dollars for quality....its worth it!!
 
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