What qualifies as a range commando???

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".....are you a marathon runner? Do you even run? Do you run back in high school??? Walking around doesn't count....poser!!!".

Too true. If you are someone who wears the gear for work and you see someone who is out there with a messed up Molle configuration, or accessories that are counter productive to their shooting, maybe give them a few tips on what they're doing wrong. It is OK to laugh your ass off on the way back to the truck though.

Too many people are worried about the next man these days. Some are worse than women when criticizing another man's choice of dress. Not meant to be ###ist, just saying. :ban:

Wear a Hawaiian shirt to the range, like I do....:p....until I get that CGN one.....;)
 
Last time I checked @ my range...
The picture with "Beware of this Range Commando" had my face over top of Arnold's pic but then I woke up & realized I was still at my computer.
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A range commando to ME, is (there is one at my range) someone who overly dresses to go to the range. Brings half of the stuff in their gun safes to the range and shoots 100 rounds of a .22, and just stand there for the rest of the time taking pictures of themselves.

I hate when people do that. Its so ### when your trying to shoot and you keep seeing camera flashes.

lets face it guys.... guns and gear is ghey :p
 
A range commando to ME, is (there is one at my range) someone who overly dresses to go to the range. Brings half of the stuff in their gun safes to the range and shoots 100 rounds of a .22, and just stand there for the rest of the time taking pictures of themselves.

I hate when people do that. Its so ### when your trying to shoot and you keep seeing camera flashes.

lets face it guys.... guns and gear is ghey :p

Like I said ;), wear a Hawaiian shirt to the range :D, but make sure you've got mags sticking out haphazardly from every pockey of your cargo pants....:ninja:
 
Like I said ;), wear a Hawaiian shirt to the range :D, but make sure you've got mags sticking out haphazardly from every pockey of your cargo pants....:ninja:

x2!
guns ARE ghey! when do grown men buy a bunch of gear and wear it around? Regardless what most say, I am 100% sure they look themselves in the mirror and get hard as tits. I know I've done it...once:p
 
A range commando to ME, is (there is one at my range) someone who overly dresses to go to the range. Brings half of the stuff in their gun safes to the range and shoots 100 rounds of a .22, and just stand there for the rest of the time taking pictures of themselves.

I hate when people do that. Its so ### when your trying to shoot and you keep seeing camera flashes.

lets face it guys.... guns and gear is ghey :p

bwahahahahaha. wheres bigdotglock when i need him. does this sound like gallager or what.
 
Great thread ...
an open window into the very soul of all us poseurs, wannabes, and maybe even a few real operaters.

mea culpa, Mea Culpa, MEA MAXIMA CULPA ... I admit it ... I'm a gear whore.
In fact, as far back as I can remember, I've always been a gear whore.

For us older guys, remember wayyyyyy back when we were kids, and played with those little green soldier men, with the accessory belts and guns and other stuff you could add on?
Well my little green soldier guy always had EVERYTHING!!

Or for you youinger crowd ... maybe you remember the GI Joe Dolls? If your GI Joie doll had EVERYTHING [ and the Barby doll Camper complete with Barb'y for weekend R&R ] then you were a juvenile gear whore too.

Then we grew up ... well mostly grew up ... and found all sorts of excuses to dress up just like the dolls we played with as kids.

Not that there is anything wrong with that!

In fact, if we were clever enough, we found some way to get the real world to pay us to live out our fantasies [ this is one definition of WISDOM!]

Not in any real order,
I've been an Infantry Officer [ leader of infants?]
Outdoors equipment Designer ...aka The Budget Backpacker, Winchester Press
Gear editor for SURVIVE magazine
Gear editor for MOMENTUM magazine
Outdoors Columnist ... spent a lot of column inches talking about gear
Licensed gunsmith ... designing custom gear for the low speed, hi drag crowd
IPSC and 4 gun competitor
and now that I'm a retired old fart,
I'm doing a bit of gun gear design and consulting again.

I'm livin my dream baby ... how about you?
And,
I wear any dam thing I want to the the range.

As far as I'm concerned,
you can wear any dam thing to the range you want ...
except a horizontal shoulder holster that points your muzzle at everyone else, and just screams out "Jackass".

However,
what ever tacticool gear you wear to the mall ...
now that is a different story [ unless you happen to be Mr Gecko hisself ...]
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Hey Westie, I will weigh in here...since you asked. First of all I don't begrudge anyone their gear, training or type of gun no matter how pimped. (I still cannot bring myself to call it a weapons system with a straight face). I was a total gear whore, while I had been a fairly competent shooter for many years, around 2004 the whole Wasatch 30 mags and Blackwater contractor look came into being. It was insidious and came out of nowhere. I went from using a iron sighted CAR-15 to an M4 with every wiz bang tool on it. This would have been cool had I done anything remotely similar for a living but I was a gun monkey who ate at McDonalds and Wendys, had not exercised in years drank coke by the 2L bottle and went from racing mountain bikes to weighing in at 230lbs. RANGE/TACTICAL POSER ALERT!. What made me a poser was not all my kit, it was a mindset that I was training for something, to be ready for anything but the only thing I was doing was buying gear. There are a lot of people who have tons of cool s**t, if all you are doing is playing then it is all cool. But if you have it in your head that you want to actually train, then spend more time on fitness and firearms hard skills than you did on the Eagle Ciras, 6 different knives, 20 mags, hard knuckeld gloves, morale tags and the latest boots. Especially if you are afraid of face to face human confrontation. One of the most competent shooters I know, and one with the most street cred within LE circles is MK. The guy trains hard and uses what he may reasonably be expected to access in an emergency...he leaves the SWAT gear to the SWATIES...

Cut to now, I actually do a job where; if you want to run in certain circles you have to put in the time...no one gives a crap about your gear...guess what? the only way to cuff a guy is to control him, he's gonna breath on you, sweat on you and bleed on you...tubbies with a duty belt, 3 mags, baton, oc, cew, radio, two sets of cuffs, sba and a firearm who get knocked on their asses usually stay down until the fit guys arrive. I can say at 166lbs and an enviable BF content the poser has been exorcised. I don't sweat gel walking up a flight of stairs either and there have been a lot of elbows and knees thrown. My gear now consists of what I use at work, when rifle work is required I add some rifle mag pouches to my belt...my M4 has a rail and a KAC 300M sight. I don't debate the merits of one piece of equipment or another...I don't give a shiet, your choice of molle gear bores me as does your LaRue vapor ware ...I spend most of my training dollars on ammo and fitness along with spares to keep my "weapons system" running. (There I said it):p

Here is a pic of me as a Range Commando in 2005. It was near the end of a Tac Response course. I need a fricking holiday to recover from days of running and gunning during a heat wave. 5'8" 230lbs "Tubby Gun Nerd" as a TAC guy referred to me during a course last month.

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No longer a Range Commando, but far more useful.

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...and my rather pedestrian "Weapons system"

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ETA: I actually went in to Dave's yesterday and came out with some boot polish and a Kiwi Cloth...no molle...
 
Half of the fun is buying stuff......blah. There is nothing wrong about buying stuff and trying them out.

I like buying guns - I make no secret about it, and that's why I am a gunnut. There is no utilitarian purpose of buying more than one rifle since I cannot "operate" more than one at a time anyways - but I am a gun-buying-holic.|(not so much on gear though) Guns are my toys, like shoes to women! And many women don't even wear their shoes in the collection more than once!


Life has more than just lifting weight and running 8km a day - I spice it up with buying toys. Since I can run and do chin ups, I guess I am not qualified as a "range commando" now :(
 
I'll occasionally use my MAV just to hold all the mags etc, but more when bush shooting than when at the range.

On the rare occasions I actually make it out somewhere in an attempt to improve my shooting I try to take gear that I think is similar to what I might have available if I needed it...I wear jeans and a t-shirt and have either got a few spare mags tucked in kydex holders on my belt or in some cases just jammed in my front pocket as I'm more likely to be at home making sure that thump was just the dog knocking something over than I am to suddenly wake up and find myself in Rainbow Six.

I definitely would echo the "get fit" aspect of training...as Sparrow will attest I actually lost so much weight I was hard to recognize! But as a result I feel less like a range poser and more like a guy who owns and uses guns and knows his limitations.

I try not to judge people based on what they wear at the range...I try to judge them based on the attitude they project. If they are rigged right up in SOE but seem decent I'll probably assume they are decent people...if they have nothing more tactical than a Glock hat but act like a loser I'll probably conclude they're a loser.
 
I definitely would echo the "get fit" aspect of training...as Sparrow will attest I actually lost so much weight I was hard to recognize! But as a result I feel less like a range poser and more like a guy who owns and uses guns and knows his limitations.

I agree x2.

An investment in fitness is the best investment someone can make.
 
I like buying guns - I make no secret about it, and that's why I am a gunnut. There is no utilitarian purpose of buying more than one rifle since I cannot "operate" more than one at a time anyways - but I am a gun-buying-holic.|(not so much on gear though) Guns are my toys, like shoes to women! And many women don't even wear their shoes in the collection more than once!

I too suffer from CFPD - Compulsive Firearms Purchasing Disorder. :p
 
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I will like it better when I find it dropped on the range.

I was just about to comment about the risk of losing a knife attached like that.

TDC

Temporary solution to a temporary problem. Kids, don't attach your folder to molle, it is a bad idea.

CRKT are cheap knives. I'm not a knife and it has served me well so far, but if you want a good one I would buy something else.
 
Am I a range commando?
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Someone seeing me roll up at the range dressed like this could very well think I am a mall ninja/range commando and I wouldn't blame them. Without context anyone at the range with tactical gear could be a RC.

In the end, if you are honest about your intentions and who you are, not pretending to be something you are not, I would find it hard to label you a range commando or a mall ninja.

You guys are very competent as well :)

As an aside: I am currently a big (6'5") chunky monkey that is cutting down to normal size. Could barely walk for a few years after a really bad accident 5 years ago. Now much better. :) Biking 15-20 miles a day is helping a lot. I wear a tactical vest, green or coyote pants and nothing really matches when I do tactical matches. The rest of the time at the range I just focus on shooting and searching for the brass that my Swiss Arms moves 20 feet away :)
 
Sparrow, you'll always be my special little Blackwater shooter wanna-be!!!!!!!!! But I will always have your back and shoot with you anyday!!!!!!
I fully expect to be standing beside you on the Magpul course next spring, along with MK and Judge...

I hate to quote Yeager, but in this case he's 100%:

1. Mindset
2. Skill
3. Tactics
4. Gear

In that order........like I said, I am all for cool-guy stuff, I buy the newest gadgets, etc however I make sure I can shoot, move, and communicate..
 
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