what range is the M14/M305 effective to?

oh as much as i want to shoot awesomely small groups i do realise that im toting a battle rifle and as long as i hit my target ill be happy at a range of 500+, wether its an animal or some sinister piece of paper.. and if i dont hit, well i can just pull the trigger again :D
i was just curious about how well they could really perform
 
our range pullus used to go to 600 yards, using irons- you were EXPECTED to hit somewhere on a man-sized cardboard cut out at that distance- but to tell the truth, there's too much bullet drop with the 308 to get much more than 3-400 yards with a 350 yard zero- not you'll ever see that kind of yardage in combat anyway
 
my m-14 mildly fixed up will shoot 400 yards with a NIKKO STERLING 3x9x40 quite well with the handloads i made for it, my other one with an 18.5" barrel USGI stock operating rod and bolt national match guide rod and spring will shoot 200 yards into a man sized cardboard cut out with iron sites quite well also i designed them for certain criteria and they preform very admirally if you want long range accuracy and reliability at 800+ yards i would go to a bolt gun designed for that type of shooting, don't get me wrong i love my rifles and enjoyed putting them together but i know my limitaions and how i can effectively use them. the 22" and 18.5" barrels just can't keep up to a 26" or even 24" barrel for effective terminal ballistics at 1000yrds. this is only my opinion but a bone stock NORINCO should be good to 300 yrds effective fire
coldfire
 
I recall the 1973 Palma Match, hosted by the Americans. Shot at Camp Perry, Ohio. Rifles were M14s (well-tuned national match rifles) and M118 7.62 ammo. Sights were the half-minute National Match iron sights.

This match was teams of 16 shooters shooting at 800, 900 and 1000 yards. The bull was 20".

The rifles were issued to all the teams the day before the match. Zero shots were taken at 25 yards. On match day there were 2 zero shots before going on score at 800 yards.

The yanks won.
 
Juster said:
Smith Enterprises claims 1moa @1000 yards.
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An SEI M21A5 Crazy Horse was tested at Ft. Benning in March of 2008, it fired groups under 1 MOA at 1000 yards with M118LR ammo.

M21A5-benning.jpg



The SEI M21A5/Crazy Horse, the Vortex® Flash Eliminator, and the SEI suppressors shooting
with and against the M110, M240, and M4. at Ft. Irwin CA, November 2008. LINK


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Hey there, just looking on this thread now....

I get the impression that "some" writters here have a rather lofty expectation of the 7.62.

I thought I'd paint a picture for you on the 'visuals of it's ballistic table'. Now bear with me thou, it has been a few years.

Summer of 1985 I was on the national shootong team to Bisley England, granted, we where using match grade bolt rifles... but what I wish to do here is give you an idea, after the round leaves the barrel.

At 1000 yrds, the target frame is 6' x 6' square, thus centre of bull is 3' from top of frame.

The highest point of the trajectory is 12' above the top of the frame of the target.... that puts the rd. at hightest point of trajectory approx. 15' above point of aim.

The rd stricking the target is coming in on a sharp angle, IIRCC, greater than 45 degrees. While spotting through scope you could see impact of the rd 'under'/below the target when it was a bull.

Now that is an explaination for being shot in a vaccum....

Let's ponder, because I am NOT going to attempt to explain... the wind effect. Let's just say.. in a match there are wind flags every 100 yrds. Now how to read them is one thing, ... how to inturrpret what they mean when the first two (closest) are barely moving to the right, the next three are barely moving straight at you, then two more are raised straight out to the left, and lifting sporatically........ Now take that and try to maintain a MOA at 1000 yrds.....

Real world is a little different than theory.....
 
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