what semi-auto beats 1022?
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rimfirerick
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having ten 10-22s in my collection 5 of which i bought for family members and one for my girlfriend.i have to go with the 10-22.but i have to agree that for the more serious of us all you get is an action and a trigger housing when you buy one.all of mine are customized to some extent they all have faced bolts and crown jobs.these two simple mods cut the groups in half (my findings) the stock trigger can be worked if you know what you are doing but i do know people who have made them go full auto.and if you can find an original carbine walnut stock you can work it to look as good as the tc.i have used the tc and was not too impressed my hunting buddy got one for christmas a couple of years ago and did not like it a bit.i had two 597s both heavy bbls one in 22 mag the other in 17hmr and was not impressed at all.they did not feed reliably and the triggers are garbage even after vq parts were installed.and the bolt hold open did not allways work. m anmb
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the nylon 66 is an accurate semi, gotta keep it clean also to make it keep on ticking.
While I haven't shot your two examples (or many others for that matter), the Fun Factor is a very good reason for me.Wrong Way said:
I find the gun to handle very well, looks OK (Walnut Stock) and is quite accurate. Mine has been very reliable - never a jam. The rotary mag is great for 10 shot blasts and reloading.
I had my eye on the Browning BAR .22 many years ago and balked, that, IMO was one of the nicest lookin' semi's (ever) made.
22LR, it's the overall package. You can buy a 10/22 for whatever you wish. If you want a light rifle, there's one for you. There's even the target models. If you're into modding you buy the cheapest one and modify it yourself.
If you want extreme accuracy then you go with a bolt action not a semi. But you can get very good accuracy either with the target models and or modifications. Now the other reasons people like the 10/22.
1) The rotary magazine which is flush with the bottom of the stock. Very slick.
2) The overall fit and finish is pretty decent especially compared to the cheaper competition
3) Semi auto is just plain fun
4) The aftermarket magazines and parts
5) The ease of modifying the rifle yourself
6) The 10/22 design is tried and true
The overall package is what people like about it. It appeals to almost every type of shooter. Whatever you're into, there's a 10/22 for you.
If you want extreme accuracy then you go with a bolt action not a semi. But you can get very good accuracy either with the target models and or modifications. Now the other reasons people like the 10/22.
1) The rotary magazine which is flush with the bottom of the stock. Very slick.
2) The overall fit and finish is pretty decent especially compared to the cheaper competition
3) Semi auto is just plain fun
4) The aftermarket magazines and parts
5) The ease of modifying the rifle yourself
6) The 10/22 design is tried and true
The overall package is what people like about it. It appeals to almost every type of shooter. Whatever you're into, there's a 10/22 for you.
I have owned:
3 or 4 10/22s
2 Browning Semi 22s (takedown model)
1 Cooey semi .22
Also had a few levers (Browning and a Winchester)
I have never had issues with any of them, all worked great. I have never had a .22 that didn't shoot accurately. I put a red dot on the 10/22 that I currently have (or should I say on my wife's 10/22) and it is alot of fun.
if you are looking to put 5 shot in the same hole at 100 then maybe you need something else, but all of my .22s have shot dime sized groups at 50 yds with the proper optics.
3 or 4 10/22s
2 Browning Semi 22s (takedown model)
1 Cooey semi .22
Also had a few levers (Browning and a Winchester)
I have never had issues with any of them, all worked great. I have never had a .22 that didn't shoot accurately. I put a red dot on the 10/22 that I currently have (or should I say on my wife's 10/22) and it is alot of fun.
if you are looking to put 5 shot in the same hole at 100 then maybe you need something else, but all of my .22s have shot dime sized groups at 50 yds with the proper optics.
Brutus
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I have a regular 10/22 and a 490 winchester. Although these last couple of years the ruger got a good work out with some mods....and my 490 yes, will jam after 300-350 rounds. Prior to that though, the 490 will outshoot the ruger, almost all of the time, and already has, an excellent trigger in it.
Wrong Way said:
Most accurate? -NO
Most Features? - NO
Most reliable? - Pretty darn close, name a semi with a better reputation (I own 3 that have an impeccable track record)
Best looking? - A matter of opinion, I love the look of them, but that is because I like the way they work.
Lightest? - NO, but if you want the lightest you can make them that way, is 3lbs 11 oz light enough?
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96706
I think the reason that 10/22 are so popular is that they are a great compromise. Stock they don't do anything spectacular, but they do all things well.
The rotary magazine makes handling them great, you don't realize how much the magazine pokes out till you have one that is flush.
When you talk about the 10/22 you HAVE to talk about the aftermarket. That is like talking about how good a chevy small block(or the 5.0 mustang) and not talking about the parts for it. That is part of the package, for any little hitch or niggle that you don't like about them, there is a fix. Maybe dollar for dollar a 597 might be on the same level as the 10/22, but the aftermarket support is one of the things that sets it apart from the others. I think the T/C retail for $500 ish (someone please correct me if I am wrong).
The kimber is going to cost a fair bit of money right out of the pocket, with the 10/22 you can slowly pick away at it (university student, not exactly swimming in coin). Does kimber make a semi-auto 22??? (I try to not look at things that I can't afford, I tend to fall in love and do stupid things)
Last but not least, the fun factor. Isn’t that why we all do this?? Everyone has a different definition of fun. Some people love target shooting, some people love hunting, and some people love to just go out blasting.
10/22 can be made very accurate if that is your cup of tea. There are guns that are more accurate, but a modified 10/22 can shoot better than I will(definitely better choice available if you are concerned about a few thousands of an inch) . The 10/22 is more than acceptable for most hunting that you will do with the 22lr, I can’t really think of too many situations that they will leave you wanting something else. But when it comes to the blasting, hands down you can’t beat them. Throw on the 25 shot magazine, line up 25 skeets 30 yards out, and see if you can break them all in under 30 seconds. If you want to get a non-shooter into firearm sports, the 10/22 will usually keep there attention.
They are cheap and easily obtainable. You don’t have to search high and low to find them, and they can be modified to suit your own tastes.
What this incredibly long post is getting at is;
+1 for the 10/22
B-N said:
x2 well said.
Bottom line is the basic model works, every time, all the time. That's why millions have been sold but you can upgrade a 10/22, dollar for dollar to shoot as well or better then any other semi out there. What makes it the best is that you have so many options you don't have to compromise anywhere. In the end you get the rifle you want, the way you like. No other 22lr semi can give you this (plus 25 and 50 round mags
), NONE!!!
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Surprised that there aren't more T/C Benchmark and Classic fans. I've always considered this rifle to be what a Ruger should have been....out of the box.
For the guy/gal that doesn't want to add $1,200 worth of kit to a used 10/22, an $800 T/C Classic is the way to go. Wood or Synthetic monte carlo stock, heavy target barrel, 3lb trigger. Slap on some Burris Sig-Zee rings and a scope and you are good to go.
For the guy/gal that doesn't want to add $1,200 worth of kit to a used 10/22, an $800 T/C Classic is the way to go. Wood or Synthetic monte carlo stock, heavy target barrel, 3lb trigger. Slap on some Burris Sig-Zee rings and a scope and you are good to go.
Wrong Way
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MPI said:x2 well said.
Bottom line is the basic model works, every time, all the time. That's why millions have been sold but you can upgrade a 10/22, dollar for dollar to shoot as well or better then any other semi out there. What makes it the best is that you have so many options you don't have to compromise anywhere. In the end you get the rifle you want, the way you like. No other 22lr semi can give you this (plus 25 and 50 round mags
Wrong. Lots of options. Now mind you, to get a truly custom rifle you have to invest more time/effort than simply bolting on a bunch of aftermarket crap in mom's basement. I can have a semi-auto-belt-fed 1/4 MOA .22 for frig sakes...if I want it built. It would still probably cost less.
skeetgunner said:
I couldn't agree more! Like I posted earlier...I don't know why people are willing to buy these things knowing they've got to spend 1000.00+ to make it equal to guns that cost less to beginwith!
I liken the "10/22 Lemming syndrome" to the "Honda Civic Syndrome"
Them: Buy a 19,000.00 Civic, spend 20-30 K on mods, end up with a 250 HP great handling car. (With a stupid looking can sticking out under the rear)
Me: Spend an extra 10 grand up front, and buy a WRX Sti. 300 HP, 300 Ft/Lb, and all wheel drive
Then spend another 15 bucks on a sticker for the rear bumber that reads: Does your mom know you're racing her Honda?"back to origianl question, if you gents still remember what it was...
Lets sum up what we've got:
Remington 597
Volquartsen
MA 2000 (or Henry survival). That is one cool gun I might actually buy. What I like about it is take down capability and scope mounted on the barrel. And price of course. And the barrel. And the case.
anything else? It is funny - I asked specifically not to tell me how good 1022 is and look what happened.
Lets sum up what we've got:
Remington 597
Volquartsen
MA 2000 (or Henry survival). That is one cool gun I might actually buy. What I like about it is take down capability and scope mounted on the barrel. And price of course. And the barrel. And the case.
anything else? It is funny - I asked specifically not to tell me how good 1022 is and look what happened.
22lr said:
Sorry.
Wrong Way said:
But look what you can build with a Honda Civic!!!
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