What should I buy?

pvtjohnson

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I have a dilemma. I recently got my RPAL, and I NEED to own a pistol, contrary to some peoples beliefs.

Anyways, I'm stuck between the Canadammo Norinco 1911 pistol combo w/ 1000 rounds of ammo, and the Trade Ex TT33 combo w/ 1000 rounds of ammo.

I really dig Russian weapons, but having a 1911 would be pretty good as well.

The price difference isn't a issue.

What should I get?

https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/norinco-1911-government-model-1000-rds-combo-deal/
http://www.tradeexcanada.com/content/tokarev-tt33-pistol-and-1000rds-762x25-surplus-ammo-combo-special-free-shipping-offer
 
I knew I should of added that to my original post lol but because of our beaut gun laws, I need to shoot it at a range, which requires a range membership, soooooo I gotta get one or the other.
 
I second the motion get both, however some indoor ranges wont allow the Tok 7.62X25 ammo check before investing and being disappointed. The CanAm deal is prb your best bet allthough the .45 is a beast to start off with lol!
good luck
 
I'd say start with a 9mm at the most for a pistol even better find a .22 you like and giver! IMO .45acp isn't the best first pistol and neither is the tok. Those lil buggers are snappy too!!!
 
Gov't 45 vs Russian TT33............No comparison get the 45, long after 7.62x25 surplus dries up, 45ACP will be around and its a straight wall case, easy to reload even for beginners ;)
 
Im kinda leaning towards the TT33 because its Russian, would good with the rest of my red collection.

Whats the better pistol in terms of quality?
 
I would get the 1911 as you can customize it to no end or just shoot as is. When you get through your 1000 rounds lots of guys cast those bullets so can find them for a pretty good deal when you meet other 45 shooters.
Quality wise they will both go bang everytime you pull the trigger but you cant shoot 7.62 steel core ammo on our indoor range either.
 
What do you want to do with it? As it's your first pistol I'm sure a significant portion of this is just owning one and learning to shoot handguns, but I like to make gun purchases with the long run in mind, since the guns themselves will probably last longer than my vital organs. Neither of those are really optimal for learning handgun fundamentals (.22LR handguns mentioned previously are probably the best, especially for economical reasons). I'll join in on recommending you consider at least some kind of .22 handgun, even if it's in addition to one of these guns.

Anyway, when it comes to the long run, the Tokarev is a really cool handgun and I love shooting them. They're kind of limited in their uses, unfortunately. I want to be clear in that I'm not bashing the TT-33 because I consider it a classic. For a fun blaster, you can't go wrong, especially for the price. But be careful when you buy it to consider your gun club. A lot of the Tokarev ammo is steel core. Some ranges don't permit steel core ammo because it can damage backstops. When you can't buy the dirty-cheap surplus ammo, the Tokarev ammo becomes a lot less economical, so keep that in mind. Also, as mentioned, I wouldn't want to reload Tokarev ammo because of the bottleneck and the shortage of bullet manufacturers. If you can't shoot surplus ammo, I think the Tokarev loses a lot of it's appeal.

If you also want to do some competitive shooting, the Tokarev is pretty much right out. I recommend anybody who has handguns gets into IPSC/IDPA/whatever because it's pretty much the only thing we can do with handguns in Canada, and it's also super fun. The Tokarev is pretty much a perfect storm of features that disallow it from use in just about any kind of competitive shooting, except maybe Bullseye... and I don't think I'd use one for that. So consider that as well. Granted, experience using a TT-33 will translate into another gun if you want to shoot competition someday so it's no big deal if this isn't a priority right now.

The M1911 is a great gun. The basic gun has endless aftermarket support, which is great. That Norinco 1911 is actually a good base gun for later upgrades, apparently. It's something that can grow with you as a shooter if you want to put a little elbow grease and money into it. The downsides to a 1911 as a first pistol is basically ammo cost in my view. 45 ACP isn't cheap. Shooting it a lot, you'll feel the pinch. It is good because it'll encourage you to reload, but be aware of this going in. Those Norinco 1911s also have some pretty poopy sights. Otherwise, I can't say much negative about the gun. You can use it for just about anything we can legally use a handgun for.

Personally, I'd lean towards the Tokarev if my most common shooting venue allowed the surplus ammo and put the difference towards a .22 LR handgun like a Buckmark. If I couldn't use the surplus Tok ammo, I'd grab the 1911.
 
Thanks for the advice everyone, especially DrSpaceJam, that's a beaut of a post.
I got some thinkin to do on what I want, and may have to put it off for a bit, because I bought a mosin and some other goodies as well (couldn't help myself)

I will let you guys know what I go with!!
 
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