What the h*** is this..?

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Can anyone ID this heavily *sporterized rifle...
I have suspicions, but don't want to embarrassed if I'm wrong Lol
I'm not sure what cal. it is as I haven't looked that close yet, but it looks .30ish
Pics are crap... I know, but if anyone has a clue they win the internets.
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Yup...p14/m1917. The belly in the stock, safety, and mostly the crook in the bolt.

Looks like it could use some love. Excellent candidates for builds. Strong actions for big magnums. Mostly now, the economics doesnt add up.

I have had a few. Still have a 264wm and a 416rigby.
 
It might also be a Remington Model 30. After WWI Remington had lots of M1917 parts left over. They modified the M1917 by leaving the "ears" for the rear sight off the receiver, shorter barrel, sporter stock and sold what was essentially a factory sporter. Model 30s had 24" barrels or 20" in the carbine model. Chambered in 30-06.

Look at the receiver for markings. All the P14, M1917 and Model 30s were well marked on the receiver ring.
 
Pattn 14 sporter.


after some more thought I may be more inclined to say Model 1917 sporter.

a simple clear picture of the markings on the Knox form would answer the question.
 
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I think its a Model 1917, in 30-06 , with those hand groves in the stock , or its a Pattern 14 in .303 , -- they were built like tanks, and as mentioned above , Great for rebuilds in magnums calibers , or left the way they are -- a bit on the heavy side , but all steel and walnut. --- I like them , and have several of them , they are great rifles .~~~
 
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My dad carried a M1917 that was "farmer sporterized", much like OP's pictures, by him, from 1948 until the early 2000's when he could no longer hunt. Many, many deer, moose and elk to testify that it worked very well. From pictures, looks like you are missing the "safety lock", which is held on by the "safety lock screw", located immediately behind the safety lever. That receiver is from a very specific variant that did not have the "duck pond" oval milled into the rear bridge - I can't remember which manufacturer it was, but likely Remington, since I have an Eddystone and a Winchester, both with the oval cut out. It is not apparent to me what was used as a rear sight?? Perhaps, as shown in the first picture, the remnants of an aperture sight (like Williams or Lyman) that had been fitted, and then the aperture broken off??
If the bore is half decent, and you can figure out the rear sight business, you would have the quintessential "dern good moose rifle".
 
Potashminer said:
It is not apparent to me what was used as a rear sight?? Perhaps, as shown in the first picture, the remnants of an aperture sight (like Williams or Lyman) that had been fitted, and then the aperture broken off??
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The rear sight is a simple fold-down aperture...
Bore is good, action slick... I have no interest in doing anything with it... 'Was just curious.
It'll probably end up in the EE for $100
 
I think this could be a Rem Mod 30. the rear site is very well mounted to the remnants of what would have been the "ears" of a military action. A lot of mill work went into mounting a very simple site, something a manufacturer would "jig up" for. All of the Enfield manuf. that I have stripped over the years have what Potash calls "the duck pond", never seen one without it. I think the pond on this one is covered by what appears to be a screw attached piece of flat spring steel, probably used to lock the flip site up or down.

I have never seen or held an actual Mod 30, only seen photo's and do wonder if the "ears" were ground off (as this gun appears to be) from actions first meant for the military or were forged specifically "flat topped" for the commercial market.

I interesting gun
 
Remington Model 30, 30S and Model 30 Express were well-marked on the barrel and on the left-hand Receiver Rail.

My Model 30 Express is wearing a diamond-lapped P-17 Match barrel right now, although I do have the original tube (somewhat worn) for it as well. It is brilliantly accurate: a better Rifle than I am a Rifleman.

This is a backyard conversion from a military rifle.

Still does not mean that with a bit of TLC it cannot sit up and do tricks which you would NEVER expect from a 100-year-old rifle!
 
I think I see in pic that the battle sight is intact and folded forward laying down flat. Someone just ground off the ladder 200-1400 part of the sight
 
667 said:
The rear sight is a simple fold-down aperture...
Bore is good, action slick... I have no interest in doing anything with it... 'Was just curious.
It'll probably end up in the EE for $100
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SOLD! Where do I send the cheque?;)
 
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