what to bring reloading stuff from state side

Shruby

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Here's the deal
I want to know what i can and can not bring from the U.S. back to Canada as far as reloading components, I want to buy some .17 cal tips, brass dies etc states side send them to a buddies place and he will take them home to me when he comes

Is this ok or will he lose them at the border

Thanks all
Rod
 
The only thing on your list that will not be taken away, ( possibly leading to charges and or prohibition from crossing the border again ) are the reloading dies! All other "componants " need a export permit and as far as I know an individual cannot get one, It must be thru a exporting dealer( Ie: added funds ) Takl to some of the supporting dealers as they know the ins and outs and also have done most of this work alredy. Not trying to burst your bbble as I too would love to be able to buy surplus powders and other componants from the US for greatly discounted prices! But it just isn't meant to be .
 
my reloading kit came across the boarder legally, misc components for it as well. as for the bullets cases and powders, i dont recall what they say about the other stuff, but the powder may fall into an explosive export issue with the atf people
 
Wow that really kind of sucks the big one :eek:(

Can some one please tell me why a box of bullet tips and or empty brass would be a problem
With no powder and no primer its really just scrap metal
What the hell is the world coming to

what about having my buddy throw it in the mail to me???

thanks again
 
You would ask a buddy to violate US federal munitions control law?
Ask him to risk prosecution?
 
You would ask a buddy to violate US federal munitions control law?
Ask him to risk prosecution?

Just asking a question
don't know the answer my self and looking for the right way to deal with this
but thanks for NOT Helping ;O)

any one else what about throwing the tips in the mail?

Thanks again
 
The person sending the bullets (not tips) is breaking US laws. Exporting with out the proper permits. If caught would be charged. End of explanation.
 
The person sending the bullets (not tips) is breaking US laws. Exporting with out the proper permits. If caught would be charged. End of explanation.

So he can't send me a box of tips in the mail with out a export permit of some sort?

or he can't send bullets or are we calling them the same thing
just trying to get a grip on things

thanks for your help
 
So he can't send me a box of tips in the mail with out a export permit of some sort?

or he can't send bullets or are we calling them the same thing
just trying to get a grip on things

thanks for your help

What you are calling tips are bullets. He can't legally send you the bullets without the permits.

does this fall into the same law that bringing over live ammo does?

yes.
 
A fighter jet without batteries and fuel is primarily just scrap metal :D

Google cartridge to understand what is a bullet, casing...
Wow that really kind of sucks the big one :eek:(

Can some one please tell me why a box of bullet tips and or empty brass would be a problem
With no powder and no primer its really just scrap metal
What the hell is the world coming to

what about having my buddy throw it in the mail to me???

thanks again
 
What you are calling tips are bullets. He can't legally send you the bullets without the permits.



yes.

Well doesn't that just SUCK THE BIG ONE

Thanks for your help with this though

any idea of who or where i can send him to get a permit to bring them into Canada with him?
He is from the U.S. and has a summer place here in Canada

Thanks again
 
It is a very simple process and costs very little to export stuff from the states. At least that is what I have been told.......

I know several 'snowbirds' who shoot benchrest all over the southern states during the winter months (3 now used to be 4 of them). They take their rifles, ammo and componants across the line with them in their RVs. When filling out the forms to import firearms in the US there is an area that allows you to import AND EXPORT ammo and/or componants to/from the US. It's on the same application and does not cost extra. You just have to write it down.

I believe the US application cost is around $50. You also have to have some paperwork approved by our side, but there is no cost for that application/approval. Allow 8 to 10 weeks for all the paperwork to go through, but thats if you have done it before, expect longer times for applications to be approved on the first go-around

When I last asked the one guy about it (last fall) he told me he always puts down 2K ammo, 20lbs of powder, 10K primers, and 10K projectiles. He doesn't specify any amount of brass. He told me that you can always bring (or take) back less than you write down but you can't bring back more (US rules and CA rules).

This is of course all info from an aquaintace I see every other week at the range. I have no personal experiance with the process.
 
Shruby, as long as you post on this forum, and call bullets "tips", don't cop an attitude!

But neither you nor your buddy can carry, drive, mail or throw ammunition nor componets across the border without either having a U.S. Export permit, or breaking U.S. federal law. (Buddy can bring some ammo across for hunting, but one does not hunt with "tips" but with a reasonable stock of personal use ammo.) Acquiring a U.S. export permit is a time consuming pricey process, and many major U.S. mail order businesses don't bother 'cause it cost too much, involves too much U.S. government B.S. paperwork and it is fraught with too much danger of missing a cross on a "t" or a dot on an "i" and running afoul of the U.S. draconian justice system. It certainly would not be worth it for a private individual to seek such a permit to save another private individual a few bucks on a few boxes of ammo. IMHO
 
Notsorichguy, I believe your snowbird buddy may be risking running afoul if he brings back into Canada ammunition he took into the U.S under the authority of a BATFE Form 6. My (limited) understanding is that it is a one way import permit, and all ammo takien into the U.S. must be used by the individual sportsman while in the U.S. A U.S. rule, as Canada don't much care until your round count gets up ther in the thousands.
 
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