what to do about the occasional failure to eject?
- Thread starter JR Hartman
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Lexthedestroyer
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- Location
- Abbotsford, BC
...tap rack bang?
- Location
- West Quebec
Any feedback since you last shot it? I'd try 124gr Federal just for laughs and see what happens after you've cleaned it.
Not necessarily, in the type of malfunction described here you can pull the slide back slightly while rolling the gun to the right to let the round fall out. if its a classic stovepipe with the case sticking straight up, wipe your hand along the top of the slide which should pull the case out of the port and allow it to close on the partially loaded round below. A tap rack bang will likely let the fired case drop further down into the action tying it up worse or since a round is already partially fed it could produce a double feed. In this situation a tap rack bang drill can make things worse. That's why I teach people to look at the gun to determine what is the malfunction and then take the proper corrective action. Too many people train just to do a tap rack bang in every situation and in many cases it can make it worse. Rule of thumb, if the slide is closed and you get a click, tap rack bang, if the slide is partially forward, stovepipe, pull the slide back, roll the gun and let the case fall free then release the slide or its probably a double feed I'm which case you need to lock the slide, pull the mag out, rack the gun to clear it, replace mag, rack and continue.
Malfunctions are bad! ...but knowing how to clear them properly is important. We had a police/military instructor at our range for awhile who gives excellent instruction about malfunction clearing. We'd set our guns up to fail so we could learn to fix the different types of malfunctions just as Pat H. said. It's very common at IPSC matches to see shooters who are clueless about malfunction clearing! It most important to figure out WHY the gun/ammo/shooter keeps having these problems and to fix them.If your interested in taking some lessons on this I'd highly recommend Jody at "Agoge tactical regimen" located in Saskatchewan.
- Location
- chilliwack BC.
TDC, good point on the "change one variable at a time", but you are preaching to the choir 
I am a liscenced mechanic and as such, I am always giving that advice to people in relation to their cars.
the overly relaxed thing, yes, I get that, it was my first night with the gun, my first night with my own pistol and it was a target pistol setup, from 25m, and everyone who shoots there is very much "zen" about how they shoot, so I figured I would try to shoot like them. Almost no one was shooting auto loaders. All revolvers and single shots, well mostly.
I will definitely keep the type of failure in mind, as I agree, don't treat each failure the same. thanx for the tips on how to clear the stovepipe. I hope I never need it
As for any news on how it runs now, well, let me go shoot, I have IDPA tonight, I may post afterwards, but it can be a late night.
and thanx for all the help.
I am a liscenced mechanic and as such, I am always giving that advice to people in relation to their cars.the overly relaxed thing, yes, I get that, it was my first night with the gun, my first night with my own pistol and it was a target pistol setup, from 25m, and everyone who shoots there is very much "zen" about how they shoot, so I figured I would try to shoot like them. Almost no one was shooting auto loaders. All revolvers and single shots, well mostly.
I will definitely keep the type of failure in mind, as I agree, don't treat each failure the same. thanx for the tips on how to clear the stovepipe. I hope I never need it
As for any news on how it runs now, well, let me go shoot, I have IDPA tonight, I may post afterwards, but it can be a late night.
and thanx for all the help.
- Location
- chilliwack BC.
well, 200 rounds tonight, no failures of any kind. In fact I had 3 neat experiences.
1.) IDPA was cancelled, and a member had driven over 100km one way to shoot. So I invited him out to just shoot at the rifle range. It was nice to be able to help out.
2.) I shot my SR9 at targets out to 200m! hehehe. Not super accurate, hehe, but I suspect not too many auto 9x19 pistols are. I was able to hit a man sized target a few times from each mag. kinda fun really.
3.)I listened to advice from BC Rider, this weekend, trigger advice about pulling thru the shot, pulling it with steadily building pressure until it hits the stop. JUST doing this, I was able to hugely improve my groups. Seriously. Each 10 round group was vertically strung, mostly one hole, straight vertical line. not sure what to do to squeeze the group vertically, but boy, horizontally, my group size has come down hugely. did 40 rounds this way. I hope it sticks.
1.) IDPA was cancelled, and a member had driven over 100km one way to shoot. So I invited him out to just shoot at the rifle range. It was nice to be able to help out.
2.) I shot my SR9 at targets out to 200m!
hehehe. Not super accurate, hehe, but I suspect not too many auto 9x19 pistols are. I was able to hit a man sized target a few times from each mag. kinda fun really.3.)I listened to advice from BC Rider, this weekend, trigger advice about pulling thru the shot, pulling it with steadily building pressure until it hits the stop. JUST doing this, I was able to hugely improve my groups. Seriously. Each 10 round group was vertically strung, mostly one hole, straight vertical line. not sure what to do to squeeze the group vertically, but boy, horizontally, my group size has come down hugely. did 40 rounds this way. I hope it sticks.
