What to do with solids? 9.3 X 57 mm

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I was planning on brewing up a batch of reloads for my 9.3 X 57mm Husky this aft but upon closer examination the box of Barnes bullets supplied are 250 gr solids.
This has to change things to one degree or another. I'm aware that solids are what one uses for deep penetration; such as an moose, buffalo or dangerous game. But I'm planning on using them for WT!
Will the RN over-penetrate a WT? Should I carefully apply a size-able Meplat on them to get more shock?
Heck are they even legal in AB?
Is brass considered expandable to a Wildlife officer?
And if anyone has a favorite recipe for this rd with 4895 that's be appreciated as well, otherwise Chuckhawks or such will be consulted.
 
Even if they don't expand, they'll still make a 0.366" hole, which is bigger than some expanding 308's might make. Still, I'd probably sell them to someone who would use them on thick-skinned animals, i.e. African and dangerous.
 
I use them for finishing shots when I have to track a wounded bear... They kill escaping cattle too... Actually, they kill everything.
 
Oh I think there are a few folks who will think about a trade for lead here.
Still am out on the legality of them.
My sons best friend is a conservation officer, we'll check the legality in AB 1st though
 
At a risk of sounding rude, I'm going to hold out for confirmation from the Wildlife Conservation Officer on this one.
Whether or not AB considers Brass/Copper to be a non-expanding metal will be confirmed or not, soon enough.
As opposed to ' a guy on an online forum told me so'
When theres a Fish cop only one degree of seperation away why take a chance, ask and get it from the source.
 
Make sure you tell your CO pal that the bullets in question are mono-metal solids designed for big game and not military FMJs. If he says no, I'd be interested in knowing why they would be considered any different than a hard cast lead bullet, which is also a mono-metal solid. I'm not sure of the wording of the Alberta regs, but I can assure you that these bullets will kill as well as any soft point on small stuff and better on big stuff.
 
in Sk, the wording is: (a violation to) "hunt big game with full metaljacketed, hardpoint, non-expanding bullets"


I think a Barnes solid is designed to be "non-expanding" therefore, would not be legal here... no mention of monometal etc...

I believe the "Intent" is to have expanding bullets, but as someone said long ago, a cast bullet, with a large flat point, heattreated or hardcast, in a large caliber, moving slow, is unlike to expand.

so technically, IF you cast it to NOT expand, it would be illegal, IF you cast it out of ignorance, you would be legal.

no one has ever said the rules have to make sense.
after all, they were written by bureaucrats
 
Saskatchewans Wildlife Regs say

(vii) metal-jacketed hard-point non-expanding bullets or any such bullets that have been tampered with or altered in any way
Click to expand...

I would interpret this to mean the bullet must meet ALL three(metal jacketed, hard-point, non-expanding) criteria in order to be illegal to use.

Similarily, BC's Hunting Regs state:

17#(1)# A person commits an offence where he hunts

(a)#with a rifle using
(i)# a full metal jacketed non-expanding bullet, or
(ii)# a tracer, incendiary, or explosive bullet,
Click to expand...

Here again, the bullet must be BOTH fmj AND non-expanding in order to be illegal.

So It seem hard cast bullets are legally ok. Not sure about Barnes mono-metal
 
In Alberta it says that it is illegal to hunt big game using ammunition that contains non-expanding bullets. As for cast bullets I have never heard of a charge for using them and a cast bullet will expand at some velocity imho.
Neil
 
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