I am going to get a rifle built just for target shooting.I am looking for an accurate cartridge.I will be shooting anywhere from 200-1000 yards.I have been shooting for several years but just started to reload 3 years ago.I have been leaning towards the 6.5-284 but when i get down range I also like the higher B.C. of the 30 cal bullet.I plan on spending 3500-4000 on just the rifle I already have a N/F 5.5x20 .Would like your input and Expertise.
what would you choose 6.5-284 or 300win
- Thread starter larry fraser
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Most will say 6.5 , I say 7 mil mag 
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- Ft. Mac. Alberta
6.5X284!larry fraser said:
Throw the 260 Rem. into the mix however, and I may be persuaded that way!
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BTW, next time you get a chance, shoot Johnny's and Clint's rifles side by side, and that will tell the tale!!larry fraser said:
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Terry Perkins
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Choose the 6.5-284 over the 300WM for target shooting. Much less recoil to manage. Helps with scores. However, I would choose a NF12x42 over your current NF5.5x22. 6.5 match bullets generally have a higher BC than 30 caliber bullets. 142 HPBT - .595 BC, 190 HPBT - .533 BC.(Sierra numbers)
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My setup for f-class
Mcmillan A2 stock
70 crf stainless action
douglas AG premium barrel 24 in , Stainless Bull Barrel
Harris Swivel BP
SS 16X Scope
7 MM REM MAG
Bullet 168gr sierra match HP BT , BC is high
Velocity 2750 fps
Accuracy , sweeter than honey
PS. good choice in optics, NF
Mcmillan A2 stock
70 crf stainless action
douglas AG premium barrel 24 in , Stainless Bull Barrel
Harris Swivel BP
SS 16X Scope
7 MM REM MAG
Bullet 168gr sierra match HP BT , BC is high
Velocity 2750 fps
Accuracy , sweeter than honey
PS. good choice in optics, NF
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6mm Shooter
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7mm-300wsm or the 7mmWSM. You get a longer neck and a shorter head space on the necked down 300wsm which some claim gives you better accuracy. The 7mm bullets availlable today have some of the highest BC out there. 180 berger is .684 which you can stabilize in a 1-8 twist.
larry fraser said:
If you go with the 6.5-.284 you can also count on buying a new barrel every 1200 rounds to stay competitive. I do not shoot F Class but if I did a .260 Rem or a boring old 6.5x55
would be in the works over a 6.5-.284.
If you want to shoot competitively in Canada, you simply cannot choose a .300 Winchester Magnum if you want to shoot on any DCRA ranges, which is where the majority of competitions are held.
The 6.5-284 is a proven winner. It works. As does the 6.5-06, .260 Remington and the 6.5x55 Swede. Personally, I like the Swede. Properly loaded, it gives up very little to the 6.5-284, and its been winning matches since before the Wright Brothers flew.
The 6.5-284 is a proven winner. It works. As does the 6.5-06, .260 Remington and the 6.5x55 Swede. Personally, I like the Swede. Properly loaded, it gives up very little to the 6.5-284, and its been winning matches since before the Wright Brothers flew.
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The 6xc is doing well with minimal recoil - fast twist 1-8/9
6.5x284 but you pay in barrel life.
7mm WSM using the Berger 180gr VLD in 1-9t.
I wish Lapua made brass in WSM.
We'll have a pile of 6.5x47 Lapua brass arriving shortly. This one is a bit closer to the 6xc.... low recoil.
6.5x284 but you pay in barrel life.
7mm WSM using the Berger 180gr VLD in 1-9t.
I wish Lapua made brass in WSM.
We'll have a pile of 6.5x47 Lapua brass arriving shortly. This one is a bit closer to the 6xc.... low recoil.
6.5-284 is the standard in F class. The round is well established and there are quality components to handload.
284 is a solid round and many competitors are going to 7mm for the higher BC.
The 7mm wsm that place 2nd in the F Class National was a necked up 270 WSM it has a long neck then both the 300 wsm or the 7mm WSM and has less case capacity but does reach 3000 FPS…meaning that it will shoot inside the 6.5-284
If you can get the 6x47 Swiss match brass made by RUAG that would be a fun round. It is not the same as necking down the 6.5x47 lapua the biggest difference is that the RUAG brass has large primer pockets which allows for better ignition TSE imports RUAG ammo and I inquired if they would import the Swiss match they said they would look into it. If there is more interest then maybe they will import a quantity of the brass.
284 is a solid round and many competitors are going to 7mm for the higher BC.
The 7mm wsm that place 2nd in the F Class National was a necked up 270 WSM it has a long neck then both the 300 wsm or the 7mm WSM and has less case capacity but does reach 3000 FPS…meaning that it will shoot inside the 6.5-284
If you can get the 6x47 Swiss match brass made by RUAG that would be a fun round. It is not the same as necking down the 6.5x47 lapua the biggest difference is that the RUAG brass has large primer pockets which allows for better ignition TSE imports RUAG ammo and I inquired if they would import the Swiss match they said they would look into it. If there is more interest then maybe they will import a quantity of the brass.
Someone explain again to me why the 6.5/.284 is a barrel burner over cases like the .300 Win Mag shooting bullets in the 190-210 range, .243 shooting 105s, 7mm Rem Mag and 7WSM shooting 175-180 gr bullets? Why would the barrel life of the 6.5/.284 shooting a 140 gr bullet at 2900-3000 fps be so much less than the cartridges I listed above ?
I sure hope everyone is comparing apples to apples when they are talking about a barrel being useless (completely shot out) versus being less competitive than it was from the maker because groups have just started to open up and you are dropping points or your aggs are getting bigger.
I don't have a boner for the 6.5/.284 just wondering why it is branded a barrel burner when I doubt (possibly just ignorance) the above listed rounds would get much higher competitve round counts.
Forgot to add that if you want the ballistic performance of a bullet with a BC of .600-.700 at a speed of around 2900-3000 fps you pay for it by sacrificing barrel life or running extremely high pressure.
I sure hope everyone is comparing apples to apples when they are talking about a barrel being useless (completely shot out) versus being less competitive than it was from the maker because groups have just started to open up and you are dropping points or your aggs are getting bigger.
I don't have a boner for the 6.5/.284 just wondering why it is branded a barrel burner when I doubt (possibly just ignorance) the above listed rounds would get much higher competitve round counts.
Forgot to add that if you want the ballistic performance of a bullet with a BC of .600-.700 at a speed of around 2900-3000 fps you pay for it by sacrificing barrel life or running extremely high pressure.
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Troy G said:Someone explain again to me why the 6.5/.284 is a barrel burner over cases like the .300 Win Mag shooting bullets in the 190-210 range, .243 shooting 105s, 7mm Rem Mag and 7WSM shooting 175-180 gr bullets? Why would the barrel life of the 6.5/.284 shooting a 140 gr bullet at 2900-3000 fps be so much less than the cartridges I listed above ?
I sure hope everyone is comparing apples to apples when they are talking about a barrel being useless (completely shot out) versus being less competitive than it was from the maker because groups have just started to open up and you are dropping points or your aggs are getting bigger.
I don't have a boner for the 6.5/.284 just wondering why it is branded a barrel burner when I doubt (possibly just ignorance) the above listed rounds would get much higher competitve round counts.
Forgot to add that if you want the ballistic performance of a bullet with a BC of .600-.700 at a speed of around 2900-3000 fps you pay for it by sacrificing barrel life or running extremely high pressure.
Possibly a question semantics... as in not technically burned out but will not hold the v-bull at the longer distances... you couldn't buy a v-bull if your life depended on it... same barrel would shoot rings around others at 400/500/600 and maybe 800 possibly 900... move back that extra 100 and it just doesn't want to go where you're aiming it. This might start to become even more evident with the 1/2 MOA centres.
Putting a 6.5/.284 barrel on the line that's got 1000 rounds through it thinking it's going to hold 5" at 1000 yds. for say the provincials or a 3-day match isn't a strategy... it's a recipe for disaster competively speaking.
yes... I know the V-bull is 12"
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maynard said:
THis is simply NOT true!!! I have had 3, 6.5x284s and about to have #4 built. Unless you are either using pure crap for a barrel or able to run the bolt fast enough to get the barrel glowing , this is fiction.
I have found through experience that the useful life of the 6.5x284 is in excess of 2500 rnds and usually well over 3000. I have 1 rifle that still prints really nice .350 dia groups at 100 despite having over 4000 rnds down the barrel. I have religiously used "Gun Juice" in this 1 and will do the same in the next 1.
Troy G I don't know if that answers your question or not, but that is my experience with the 6.5x284
For paper work at 1000 it is a GREAT caliber as Terry Perkins pointed out the 142 Matchkings have a higher BC than most bullets in the class do.
Recoil is light, powder consumption is also light when compared to the 300 WinMag, which I believe is 1 of the very best "do all" calibers going. But if paper only is the plan, the 6.5 x 284 delivers. If you intend to hunt with it at extreme long range then the 300 would be the better option.
I have killed moose and deer at well over 600 yards with the 6.5x284 so know it can do the job, but beyond that I think the bullet is too light to afford good penetration.
KK
