What would you do? Cosmetic damage to new rifle.

I would ship it back to the dealer and ask for my money back. Distributors and dealers who attended the 2013 Shot Show will have their orders fulfilled, and soon with new firearms. Keep your returned money and wait for a couple more months..........Patience in a virtue.
 
calvados.boulard said:
I have not shot the rifle. The one ragged hole I was talking about was the included CZ test target. It is not a used rifle, hence them selling it at a discount to someone else, yet denying me the same price is something I take issue with.

Thanks,
Cal.
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So return it, get a refund and be happy to return it get a refund and buy it again at the discounted price. How hard is that. Seems like an easy solution and no need for 4 pages of this.
 
I just discovered another issue that I think is the last straw. When the bolt is closed and cocked I'm able to wiggle the bolt handle in all directions. There is play between the bolt and the handle when cocked.

Thanks,
Cal.
 
Thanks everyone for your help. After reading through some other forums on the web and a few YouTube videos I see that the wiggle in the bolt I'm experiencing is a result of the way the bolt handle and the bolt are connected in the mini mauser action. Doesn't give me a ton of confidence in the bolt, but I guess others with 527s have been running this type of bolt and handle combination for years without issue.

Thanks again,
Cal.
 
A couple of thoughts. I recently bought my first gun - it was $700. I experienced a similar situation to you - there were all sorts of minor defects and the stock was actually on a bit crooked. I obsessed about it and was pissed that it wasn't perfect for $700 and had every intention of sending it back - then I relaxed, accepted that in the grand scheme the issues were minor, I could fix them, and the true test would be if it shot straight or not.

If I couldn't get it to shoot straight due to the misaligned stock I was going to send it back as the mechanical properties were more important than the cosmetic issues. I shot it and the gun has turned out to be much more reliable than many people experience with this gun (and it is more accurate than I expected) so there is no way I'd risk getting a less reliable and less accurate gun for the sake of cosmetics.

Regarding your main issue that if they will sell it at a discount "as is" to someone else if you return it then why can't you get a bit of a refund.. My theory - first off, they offered you a refund, case closed they did the right thing and that is a fair offer, but - you are wanting that "as is" discount - you are asking the vendor to cut into their profit on that gun for you. It is grand to think every vendor is making money hand over fist but that isn't the reality most of the time. Chances are that cosmetic damage is nothing to do with the vendor, they received it into their warehouse they shipped it out - why should the vendor resolve this by getting less profit?

Where I think the "as is" deal comes in (and why they can't give it to you), if you return it and then they sell it as is then they can document it and show the profit loss to CZ due to the gun having cosmetic defects and receive some type of compensation from CZ for the their loss! That is the difference - your resolve the vendor profits less, the vendors resolve you get your money back - they earn less of a profit off the gun - they receive compensation from CZ to make up for that lost revenue... That is what I would think is happening..

Relax, enjoy the gun, if you are super bothered by this then return it and walk away from the deal, that is a fair resolve to a soured contract - both parties take their property/money back and go their separate way
 
Send it back, it was not what you paid for and you are obviously not happy. If the dealer is not willing to compinsate you for the bad condition, I would not deal with them again.
 
Maybe it is me but this is a rifle not a bloody Ferrari
if it shoots well the rest is character will it spend it's life in a bubble it will get more dings
they are minor it is not a rembrandt
carry on and safe shootin
 
calvados.boulard said:
As posted above I have tried to deal with the vendor. They have stated that if the issues are cosmetic, that they will sell it at a discount, yet won't let me have that discounted price now. Again, this is a brand new almost 1k rifle. It has not been shot by me...only by CZ. This is where my dilemma is. Do I return it, or live with the defects and the bad taste in my mouth that the dealer in question would turn around and sell the rifle to someone else at a discount, but not give me the same discount?

Thanks,
Cal.
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You have to look at it from the dealer's point of view as well I think. According to most store policies, "new" refers to a gun that hasn't been sold at a retail level. Also, for all they know, you could have marred it, hence the reason they may be denying you the discount.
Personally, these minor imperfections wouldn't bother me, but I'd suggest that if you're the type that requires a flawless gun, you need to go to a store to physically inspect it before buying. I don't recall having ever purcahsed a new gun that was completely free of any and all blemishes.
 
I guess it depends what the end use of the rifle will be. For me a working rifle will get scarred up under daily use in a few weeks, so those little imperfection are of little or no consequence. The dents in the wood are easily corrected as previously stated, and if the mars on the metal work annoyed me, I'd sand blast the offending parts and GunKote them or the whole thing, which I can do myself, but wouldn't pay to have done to a new factory rifle. If however the rifle is meant as a display piece, its appearance is far more important than a working gun's, but IMHO, you would pay a premium for a select piece.
 
"The included test target is a single ragged hold @50m. "

Just shoot it and enjoy it, think of it as a working gun, not a show piece. Everyone here would love a 7.62x39 with that accuracy.
 
You know, in the end, the decision rests with yourself. Only you know how hard it was to find that particular rifle. You have to ask yourself - how hard will it be in the future? How much will the future price have increased, if any?

In terms of the vendor, it is not very likely that this business knows you. I spend time to chat (politics, news events, guns, ammo) with a local gunshop owner and we know each other. If either of us noticed the imperfections, we would have worked something out because he values my business and friendship. Big box stores or infrequent visits to this vendor would result in a lessor tendency be skeptical. Perhaps, if it was in a manufacturers box, they likely did not even open it before sending to you (I know of several that operate like that) and even if they did, some of those imperfections would have been difficult to spot or even noticed by an inexperienced stockroom person or clerk (my bias there - as that is reality from my experience). They offered to take it back - I think that is fair. If it really bothers you to the point of losing sleep, then send it back.

I liken the "new" factor to the new car or truck. It is immaculately babied until that first cup of coffee soaks into the carpet or that first tree branch scratches the fender. Then it's well - just a car or truck now. At that point, one doesn't really care if it is now washed at the Petro-Can whirling "soft" cloth car washes. Same thing with the rifle. In the field - it gonna rub, fall or otherwise get marred by something. If the rifle is that important to you, then pretend the first field bumps have happened and get a good night's sleep.
 
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Send it back. It is supposed to be a new rifle and it arrived in an unsatisfactory condition. And you're not happy with it. It's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.
 
If a new rifle has to wear dings I want to have put them there.

Given the attitude of the vendor up front I'd tell him to pony up the discount he was going to give everyone else.
 
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