What would you do?

[mississaugagunnut]

So, I purchased a CZ 858 from a CGN member on the EE. The rifle was said to be in like new condition.
Upon receiving the gun I disassembled it. The exterior was spotless! The interior was as well, I mean not a trace of lubication of any kind. The problem came when I went to remove the gas piston. It was seized tight. I had to use a punch to break it free.
The gas port where the piston sits was rusted. The gas side of the piston was also rusted but it was easily cleaned. The gas port required more attention but a rolled up emery cloth and oil did the trick.
The bore appears clean and bright.

I notified the vendor about this and told him I was not happy. He said he cleaned the rifle with windex after every use. Appently he did not clean the gas ports.

So, what would you do? I am inclined to test fire the rifle and keep it if all is good. I have had a VZ58 for awhile now and am well versed in the platform. The vendor appears to want to make things right.

 

[Mermaniel]

I would ask him to pay for shipping back and get a refund...

 

[tungngroove2000]

get a new piston and spring, ask the seller to refund the amount of those parts plus what your time was worth to unseize/clean it. i'm sure as long as you're reasonable you can work it out.
then load up on ammo and have fun.

 

[sewktbk]

If the seller won't take responsibility and settle the matter in a way that you judge to be reasonnable, leave detailed negative feedback.

 

[mullet maniac]

test fire the rifle and keep it if all is good.

I may be wrong, but it sounds like the vendor THOUGHT he was maintaining it properly. If replacement parts are required, ask the vendor to pay for them. If it's a matter of labour... well, it's a labour of love, right?

If you felt the vendor was trying to mislead or decieve you, then for sure you would have every right to go nuclear; if you feel he was on the up 'n up, maybe this can turn into a win-win situation where you get a fun project and some new parts as needed, and the seller gains some new knowledge.

 

[bfiles]

Yeah, if he wont take a refund for it just leave appropriate feedback to let us all know.

 

[Billythreefeathers]

Clean it, lub it, fire it. If it is in good working condition and you are satisfied then no fouls

If it does not work satisfactory then out line what parts you expect the vendor to pay for to make it right,, like you said he wants to make it right.

 

[vstar650ca]

Myself if I sold you the rifle I would be more than happy to buy you a replacement piston and spring.I am sure it will work out,most folks here are pretty honest.

 

[mississaugagunnut]

Thanks for all the input. The piston is in great shape now that I cleaned. My main concern is the area where the gas exits the barrel and hits the piston. This area was very rusty. I cleaned it but I am worried the rust will always be a factor. I also am aware that this area should not be lubed.

 

[AndrewNS]

test fire the rifle and keep it if all is good.

I may be wrong, but it sounds like the vendor THOUGHT he was maintaining it properly. If replacement parts are required, ask the vendor to pay for them. If it's a matter of labour... well, it's a labour of love, right?

If you felt the vendor was trying to mislead or decieve you, then for sure you would have every right to go nuclear; if you feel he was on the up 'n up, maybe this can turn into a win-win situation where you get a fun project and some new parts as needed, and the seller gains some new knowledge.

^^ This for sure. If the seller thought that he was maintaining the rifle properly then you can't really fault him for the issue... Take detailed pictures showing the issue, send them to the seller, test fire the rifle and if all is good with it, keep it. If it needs parts, get them and ask the seller to cover the cost. Also, let him know WHY this happened, since he obviously doesn't know the knowledge may be well appreciated.

 

[skip1600]

Thanks for all the input. The piston is in great shape now that I cleaned. My main concern is the area where the gas exits the barrel and hits the piston. This area was very rusty. I cleaned it but I am worried the rust will always be a factor. I also am aware that this area should not be lubed.

When I had my cz I always seemed to get a light discolouration in the inlet for the gas. So I started using a quick shot of rem oil in there prior to shooting and that solved all my problems and as far as I know (haven't heard negative from the buyer and it was sold months ago) it still isn't a problem

 

[gregb]

Clean the piston and go shoot it.

 

[Tex Critter]

I'd clean it up then put in on the EE for double what I'd paid for it, then go buy 2 more.

Seriously, I'd just clean it and shoot it. Unless its BNIB its not going to be "mint".

 

[mississaugagunnut]

Well I shot 100rds of surplus through it and zero malfunctions. I checked the gas port after and it looks ok, no rust. I will keep the gun. Thanks for all the input.