Almost true.. should be but they prohibited the idea of designing a 30 round mag that would say "Remington 7615 magazine". Probably cause they knew it would end up in an AR.
what would you pay for a legal 30round mag
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Almost true.. should be but they prohibited the idea of designing a 30 round mag that would say "Remington 7615 magazine". Probably cause they knew it would end up in an AR.
rommelrommel
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They didn't prohibit the idea. Remington marketed the gun as accepting AR15 mags so they didn't have to do anything. Anyways, CFC doesn't prohibit things. They make a ruling, and if you don't like it, you can appeal or head off to court. The law prohibits things.
Campfireprophet
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But could you put the ten round ar pistol mag in the rem 7615. Legaly that is?
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I would pay big bucks, and I'm sure every one here would too. 1 -10 round LAR-15 magazine: $40. X3 for 30 rounds: $120.
Hell if you charged $100, everyone would still be getting a deal. Nevermind the fun factor and the obvious benefit to matches.
And to who ever was talking about a modification to the mag so it won't fit ar's.. you've got it all wrong. You point out to me where that is stated in rulings/law. It has been stated that the legality of a magazine depends solely on what it was designed for.
10 round pistol mag that is designed for the pistol, but just so happens to fits in rifle = ok (LAR-15, Storm, AR glock mag conversion, etc)
10 round bolt action mag that is designed for the rifle, but just so happens to fit in rifle (AIA enflield with magazines that fit into M14's)
10 round pistol magazone designed for one caliber, but fits and functions with another = ok (Sig P226 in 40 with a 9mm barrel can fit 13+ 9mm rounds into the 40 mag, and is legal because the mag was deisgned for use with 40 cal ammo.)
That being said. If someone makes a bolt action rifle, with proprietary magazines that are designed for use in such, and just so happen to fit AR-15's than that = ok. the reason the remington pump rifle mag was not approved was because it was advertized that the magazine for it was already designed as an AR-15 magazine. (Or the mag well, I forget)
Hell if you charged $100, everyone would still be getting a deal. Nevermind the fun factor and the obvious benefit to matches.
And to who ever was talking about a modification to the mag so it won't fit ar's.. you've got it all wrong. You point out to me where that is stated in rulings/law. It has been stated that the legality of a magazine depends solely on what it was designed for.
10 round pistol mag that is designed for the pistol, but just so happens to fits in rifle = ok (LAR-15, Storm, AR glock mag conversion, etc)
10 round bolt action mag that is designed for the rifle, but just so happens to fit in rifle (AIA enflield with magazines that fit into M14's)
10 round pistol magazone designed for one caliber, but fits and functions with another = ok (Sig P226 in 40 with a 9mm barrel can fit 13+ 9mm rounds into the 40 mag, and is legal because the mag was deisgned for use with 40 cal ammo.)
That being said. If someone makes a bolt action rifle, with proprietary magazines that are designed for use in such, and just so happen to fit AR-15's than that = ok. the reason the remington pump rifle mag was not approved was because it was advertized that the magazine for it was already designed as an AR-15 magazine. (Or the mag well, I forget)
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oh man did i open a can of worms here
guys i just want a straight answer HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY
i really dont care about your opinions on the difficulty of having a legal one or that the cfc would fight it or the law would change or any other horse ####.
simply how much and how many.
and to the guys who say no more than a pinned one then obviously you dont want one because if you think someone is gonna go to the expense of tooling up and making a mag for your benefit never mind designing and having it approved just to be told that their hard work and money is worth nothing extra to you then your on crack.
bottom line is that if we ever see a legal hicap then its gonna cost whatever the maker decides and take it or leave it.
guys i just want a straight answer HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY
i really dont care about your opinions on the difficulty of having a legal one or that the cfc would fight it or the law would change or any other horse ####.
simply how much and how many.
and to the guys who say no more than a pinned one then obviously you dont want one because if you think someone is gonna go to the expense of tooling up and making a mag for your benefit never mind designing and having it approved just to be told that their hard work and money is worth nothing extra to you then your on crack.
bottom line is that if we ever see a legal hicap then its gonna cost whatever the maker decides and take it or leave it.
You can put anything you damn well please in any rifle.
Ask yourself this; "Is the magazine I have legal in it's current format?"
If the answer is yes, you can legally put it in anything it will fit. The 10 round LAR15 pistol magazines fit in AR15's, its legal. The AIA Enfield 10 round magazines fit in the M14, perfectly legal.
If the magazine is legal, then you can jam it in anything it'll fit.
$100 easy, unlike some of the other guys i'm willing to admit it.
Seriously, how do you figure that? It takes 6 pinned mags to hold the 30 rounds that 1 unpinned mag could hold.... Even if it ended up costing twice the price of a pinned mag, it is a bargain. Bearing in mind that the value is only relative to the Canadian market, of course. But that's the hand we've been dealt...
Oh, and to answer the original question; I'd probably pay up to $80 before I started thinking twice... But I can definitely say that I would be buying a ton of them at $60 -$70.
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if legal 30 round mags start coming in, 5/30's and other pinned ones will be forgotten, no one will give a damn about them. so normal cap mags will become the norm.
I don't understand why it should be more expensive, it should be cheaper.
I don't understand why it should be more expensive, it should be cheaper.
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50-80 if they performed as well or better then the best mag on the market now. Capacity is nice, but performance still rules IMO.
Would you apply that same logic to the legal 10 round AR mags that we have access to now? It's the same situation; the 30 round mags would not be AR mags they would have to be manufactured for some (as of yet) non-existent bolt or pump rifle. If they fit into an AR it would be purely coincidental... So first someone had to come up with this new gun and build and sell it. Then, just like the 10 round pistol mags, the mags would have to be marked as being for the new gun. And no one is going to do all if this for free...
i believe the wording on this is (and you should double check) is that its illegal to modify mags to fit in a gun it wasn't designed to, its illegal to modify a gun to take mags it wasn't designed to.
the LAR mags get around this because your not modifying the gun, your not modifying the mags, they just happen to fit.
you would in theory have to develop a bolt action that uses new special 30 round mags. and then you would have to develop a new AR15 lower that just by coincident could also accept the new mags. so youd have to build two new guns
just thinking out loud here.You are half right. You CAN NOT modify the magazine to fit in something else. You CAN modify the rifle to fit the magazine ie: Glock mag adapters for AR15.
The argument is to make a manual rifle with its own magazine. This magazine would have a bump on it to just barely prevent it from fitting in an AR15. The user would simply have to cut out the mag well to accommodate the bump.
The Dlask pump rifle is deemed an AR15 variant, all magazines for it are AR15 mags.
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The problem witht at argument is that nowhere does it state that for a magazine to be approved that it has to be preventable from fitting into other, commonly availible firearms.
If it is soley designed for that pump/bolt gun, that's all you need.
The whole bump in the mag thing is just a pain in the @$$ that would make things alot more complicated that it really needs to be.
Paletiger13
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hell, I'd pay 3000.00 USD for a Tavor. If I was in you guys shoes I'd pay 50 for a legal 30rndr. Why not
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