What would you pay for legal full cap AR15 magazines?

LOL :D.

They are trying as hard as they can to NOT approved them BEFORE the Liberals get back in. All of us running around with 30rd mags could overthrow the government if the Liberals come back :D.

-Jamie M.
 
Deckard said:
"Still under evaluation until we get a Liberal government. Then you will get an answer."
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I know it's fashionable to slag-off the RCMP, but I just had a very professional, courteous and quick interaction regarding a mag question. So at least one guy at the Firearms Reference Table Section is on the ball.

Imagine the firestorm that could follow permitting a normal-cap mag that will fit into an 'evil' AR15 - who can blame them for being careful? Which of them wants to get their career sidelined when their decision is reversed or attacked? And why not work with them to ensure that the decision is solid enough to not be reversed? Seems like a better approach than just shouting insults (Deckard, that last bit is not directed at you, just at what often happens).
 
acrashb said:
Imagine the firestorm that could follow permitting a normal-cap mag that will fit into an 'evil' AR15 - who can blame them for being careful? Which of them wants to get their career sidelined when their decision is reversed or attacked? And why not work with them to ensure that the decision is solid enough to not be reversed? Seems like a better approach than just shouting insults (Deckard, that last bit is not directed at you, just at what often happens).
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You could just as easily flip the tables though and say that the firearms community is becoming less and less trusting of the RCMP. I guess there's a bit of a balancing act here. If you were the RCMP would you be more worried about the liberals destroying your career when they get back into power, or about a large (and obviously armed) segment of the society feeling you're untrustworthy and treating everything you do with suspicion?
 
My comment was tongue in cheek. At least one of you got it. However, it not an insult to say bureaucrats are vastly likely to say "NO!" than yes on 9/10 of the matters they deal with. At best, it saves them work.
 
You guys are forgetting one thing they ban guns by name not reason,10 round mags they let but i highly doubt 30. In my opinion they whould pull that crap again on this mag.
 
if the rcmp is trying to sway fire arms laws is that not considered corruption

and the fact that the liberals are afraid of being over thrown mean they should be

i would pay about $100 for one and i don't even own a gun that can use it
 
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Holy Necromancer.

You still working on this Armedsask?

Seems to me the approval for Questar's 10 round .223 pistol mags sets a precedent that would force them to approve a 30 round .223 bolt action magazine.
 
MikeyT said:
Seems to me the approval for Questar's 10 round .223 pistol mags sets a precedent that would force them to approve a 30 round .223 bolt action magazine.
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Which would likely in turn create a precedent that would make the lawmakers change the rules so there is no loophole anymore and would outlaw the usage of magazines containing more than 5 rounds in a semi-auto rifle.

With the current paranoia in the public and lawmakers this would probably go through the House and Senate in record time, especially with the Conservatives being so desperate to show progress (real or imaginary) on the law and order front and elections on the horizon.

Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.
 
MikeyT said:
Holy Necromancer.

You still working on this Armedsask?

Seems to me the approval for Questar's 10 round .223 pistol mags sets a precedent that would force them to approve a 30 round .223 bolt action magazine.
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I still would like do see it happen. I've got so much going on right now with other stuff.

This may happen but it won't be for a year or two, at least.
 
I'd say it's a safe bet that the vast majority of Canadians have no idea what our current limitations on hi-cap magazines are. Most firearms owners probably aren't even that sure. A lot of guys get mixed up over what's legal for hunting vs what's legal for target shooting, not to mention confusion over limits for pistols, rifles, bolt/pump guns, or even belt-feds. Given what the media feeds them, I reckon that most people think we've all got full auto AK47's in our closets.

My point is that a ruling in our favour regarding hi-cap mags would not be particularly shocking to the public, given how little they know about our gun laws in general. I don't think it would be that big of a story.
 
i would be happy enough with 15-20 round mags. actually id be happy enough if we vote in a new rule at pcdhfc allowing full use of our 10 round rifle mags.
 
Eddie Honda said:
My point is that a ruling in our favour regarding hi-cap mags would not be particularly shocking to the public, given how little they know about our gun laws in general. I don't think it would be that big of a story.
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Don't you know how public media works? It's all in the presentation. Just one headline of "ZOMG your neighbour has a 30-round mag in his assault weapon now!" would be enough to get most of the public and politicians up in arms. It doesn't matter how much they know about current laws and regulations. It's not like one can have a posed, rational discussion about a topic as sensitive as that. Recent history should be an obvious example.

I think there are a lot of more worthy causes to be faught before we start heading down that road. Things like getting real, logical criterias to classify restricted and prohibited instead of the current categorization by name. I also doubt that we "all" want 30-round rifle mags, as Ljungman seems to be insinuating. I know I don't. 5 rounds was too small but I'm quite content with ten.
 
I hear what you're saying Gimli, and I agree with you in that I think we should be smart about what we push for, but I think that circumventing the mag capacity limits is a great way forward. The reason I think so is that the government wouldn't have to change any laws to make it happen; the framework exists already. However, if we wanted to get the AR15 de-restricted, the federal government would have to change some legislation for sure, and I don't see that happening anytime soon. I could see them killing the long gun registry if they got a majority, but I wouldn't hold my breath regarding anything else, at least for now.

As far as I know, there was no media backlash over the 10 round AR mags, or the short barrelled 870s from Dlask. That's all old news now. There's no groups of liberals hanging around at the range to notice that you are changing mags less frequently. Personaly, I think that the 5-round limit is one of the worst rules we have, and we should continue to pick away at it. 10 or 20 round mags for M305's would be great for a next step. I've heard a lot of great ideas in threads like this, and I'm optimistic we will continue to make progress.
 
Gimli said:
I also doubt that we "all" want 30-round rifle mags, as Ljungman seems to be insinuating. I know I don't. 5 rounds was too small but I'm quite content with ten.
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Just because you are content, so should everybody else???

Mags/clips/belts should have no limit on capacity. If you want less, then put less in. If you don't want it, then don't buy it.
 
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