what you think of the 30-06 cal

[pa guns]

I agree, anyone with a handle on high school math can see the advantage of the 7mm bullet for military service, although the .30 gave us a better hunting round IMHO. Neither do I understand why the Germans, who already understood the advantages of the 7mm projectile from a battle rifle, chose a .318, then a .32.

Hi

I believe they were worried about armor. They seemed to have convinced themselves that an 8 mm was more effective on troops under cover, or on lightly armored targets.

Bob

 

[savagefan]

The Boers were very happy with the performance of 7x57 Mausers before either world war.

 

[pa guns]

The Boers were very happy with the performance of 7x57 Mausers before either world war.

Hi

I do believe that the Spanish came out ahead with their 7 mm Mausers in the Spanish American war. That was *way* before WWI, and before the Second Boer War.

Bob

 

[joe-nwt]

has anyone here ever shot that 30-06 remington ammo its like 100 (or less)
grains and moves at 4080fps ?????

I think you mean the Accelerator. They were a sabot with a 55gr 22cal bullet. Not very accurate at all.

 

[savagefan]

Hi

That was *way* before WWI, and before the Second Boer War.

Bob

makes sense.

 

[pa guns]

Hi

Since the US had a bunch of Spanish Mausers after the war, there was a push to simply use them. That was the first time we *almost* went to 7 mm ....

Bob

 

[tank3852]

What is exactly the hard evidence behind the 7mm being better than the 30cal.? Im not saying its not better but i want to see this math you speak of to prove it?

 

[pa guns]

Hi

The simple quick answer is to take a look at the ballistic coefficient of bullets in the 150 to 170 grain range. For the same basic bullet design, the smaller caliber will give you a better BC at the same weight.

In most cases they look at equivalent recoil energy. That means same bullet weight and velocity or something pretty close to it.

Bob

 

[Boom-Boom]

'06

here is what my 30-06 can do at 300 meters, if I do my part

that is loaded with 168 grain Nosler HPBT match bullets in Lapua brass and IMR 4831 powder. and that is with a fixed 6x scope!

In the same vein, a few years ago I shot 594/600 at Connaught in the F Class ISSF 300 meter match where you shoot 60 rounds on score in 90 min. (or less) time. The 10 ring measures one MOA and some.

I was using a Rem 700 with wood stock glass and pillar bedded with a simple Harris bipod on, and rear bag behind.

Barrel is a 29 in. Ted Gaillard (Sendero profile but unfluted) and the pill was 155 SMK pushed by H4350.

But If you want to shoot F Class F category ( Palma) you have to use the .308 Win. cartridge by definition.

BB