what's a .410 good for (new hunter)?

death-junky said:
hahahahahaha dont make me laff:rolleyes:
try 30 ft not 30 yards!!!!!!!
personaly the .410 is usless 20 ga should be the min for a beginer preferebly bigger ive read and witnest the 410s extreem under power and lack of pellets i shot a grouse 5 times with a 410 my freind ownd i could see the pellets bounsing off:eek: and this was at about 25 yards. i had to get about 10ft away to realy do damage.
the only real use is shooting Rats in your barn or house..... not much nose or damage.
talk to ya all later
Riley
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Uhhh. Tell that to the folks who shoot skeet with the .410 bore. I've shot a duck at ~25 yards with the .410 and the pellets did not bounce off. At 10ft you'd see a puff of feathers as the grouse gets blown in two.


Back to Monty: a large thrashing Halibut can easily break a man's legs! There are special harpoons that have ropes attachet to them.
 
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1899 said:
Uhhh. Tell that to the folks who shoot skeet with the .410 bore. .
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I shoot skeet with a .410..................and I reccomend selling the .410 and buying a 20ga.:D :D

20ga- better payload and hopefully built on a smaller lighter frame.


28ga is possibly the best of both worlds. Hits much harder than a .410 but recoils like a .22lr.



But if what you have is what you want to hunt with, zillions of rabbits and grouse have been killed with a .410. Just that none have been killed by mine.........
 
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gth said:
I shoot skeet with a .410..................and I reccomend selling the .410 and buying a 20ga.:D :D
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And the .410 will break the clays if you do your job, right? Notice before that I said the .410 was, IMHO, only for the experienced and skilled hunter, otherwise it can be an exercise in frustration, just like Grouse Man said. That's all I'm saying. And that it will kill grouse and rabbits.:)
 
The 410 has exactly the same power per pellet as the pellets are travelling at the same speed, give or take a little bit based on loads. The 410 will kill if you get pellets on target, getting pellets on target is by far the problem with the 410. If you practise and feel you can hit within 25 yards 5 shots out of 5 then why the hell should you not use it on rabbits and grouse. I strongly believe that we have taken the go big or go home belief too far with shotguns and small game. You don't need a 3 1/2" 12 gauge to kill rabbits, plain and simple and if you have ever seen a rabbit hit at 15 yards with a 12 gauge and mod choke you would refrain from hunting with any 12 gauge unless using loaded down loads ie 7/8oz loads. I love the 16 gauge but ammo is expensive, reloading is the perfect way to get around that but not everyones cup of tea. As a young hunter, maybe not filled out yet why should you be hunting with a gun that weighs about the same as a truck axle. For rabbit and grouse pick up a single shot 20 or 16 gauge, learn to hit them on the first shot, if you miss you miss and that is why it is called hunting. This will keep the cost down and you will take more game while you work on your shooting skills. I learnt on a single shot Cooey Model 82 22LR and a single shot Stevens 16 gauge, still have both of those guns, given to me by my grandfather. This is what I plan to use to teach my kids in the future, mind you distant future.

Good luck but please don't feel you need a cannon to kill bunnies.
 
Yeah, I guess a .410 might be useful on one...
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I didn't know these buggers got that friggin' big! :eek: Is that possibly a bullet hole just above the "2"...?

I just bought a little .410 backpacker off of Huntinstuff - should be fun to play with. Now, I wonder how wildly inaccurate this thing will be? :p
Hey, as long as it works on halibut...
Okay, enough about the fishhhh... preciousssss... :D
 
The gaff is more like a harpoon, the head releases and stays with the fish:
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The lower hole is too low, and may allow the fish to break free. On a fish that size you'd likely have the cable tied to a buoy and let it thrash around for a bit.
here is a quote I found at
http://www.how-to-fish.com/halibut_fishing_in_washington_and_canada.htm

In Washington waters a firearm can be used to dispatch halibut, some use a 38 Special pistol, while others swear by a 410 shotgun. The "Snake Charmer" is a nice little shotgun for this. Do not try to take a gun into Canada.

That is a good article.
 
I've got a Rem Ryder #9 shot single side cocker in .28 guage with a 34 inch barrel!

It 's 101 years old and holds a very tight pattern! I don't know if I would shoot skeet with it,but it will knock a single pecan (or tree rat) out of a tree right smooth like!!!

I have a Marlin mod 410 lever that shoots 2 and 1/2 inch shells,ad it won't touch the Rem!!!


Bob
 
bobbyjack said:
I've got a Rem Ryder #9 shot single side cocker in .28 guage with a 34 inch barrel!


Bob
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Hey Bob, show us a picture, cause it sounds like a really neat piece!
 
death junky: I'd say there was something wrong with the ammo for your friend's gun. Grouse are easy to kill, and aren't armoured like waterfowl.

My father-in-law dropped a Canada goose once using a .410 loaded for grouse, #6 or 7-1/2. It was flying at tree-top height. It came down wounded, but came right down. Second shot (10 yards or more) to the head dispatched it instantly. This was, of course, when it was legal to use lead for waterfowl.

Grouse Man
 
Here in Australia .410s are popular items.
I wouldn't use 'em for anything but rabbits, hares or foxes.
Definitely not deer.
They are very servicable for the above small game though.
My uncle pops hares with his sxs off the front porch.
They're also regarded as excellent protection against snakes and as such last about a few days if they turn up on consignment at local gunshops.
Whatever the case, don't underestimate them when using them for the right game.
They're the .22lr of the shotgun world.
 
I throw a .410 single into the truck when I'm out looking for trees (firewood) and not really out hunting birds. Perfect for that, and it has taken lots of grouse out to 25 yds.

When chasing grouse for real, I take the 20g out.
Keep it around, it comes in handy.
 
popcan said:
I throw a .410 single into the truck when I'm out looking for trees (firewood) and not really out hunting birds. Perfect for that, and it has taken lots of grouse out to 25 yds.

When chasing grouse for real, I take the 20g out.
Keep it around, it comes in handy.
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That reminds me,talking about 20g and grouse---did you ever get that little bugger :rolleyes: :p
 
As some of the earlier posters have said...the .410 IS NOT a Beginners gun, but rather an experts tool. For guys saying they aren't good for snowshoe hare, and similar game all I can say is tell it to the 14 snowshoe hare I shot yesterday with my dogs and my Savage Fox SXS .410!

I switched to the SXS .410 a few years ago after getting tired of ruining meat using my 12 ga Remington 870. Even going for head shots, you still messed up meat, especially at close ranges. The .410 "forces" you to become a better shot and a better hunter. You have to pass on that would've been sure things if you were shooting a 12 bore, simply because it throws enough pellets to ensure that some will still make it through all the intervening branches and shrubs. With the .410, you have to thread your patterns through the same obstructions or wait for a truly open shot.

I didn't feel disadvantaged hunting the .410, even though my two buddies were both toting pump action 12 gauges...they only managed 5 hares between them!
 
Born and raised in Northern Ontario, a 410 single shot and a .22 were my guns since 13 years old. I have shot many, many rabbits and grouse. It does work well, even in the brush or for wing shots. True you have to be a good shot but the lightness of this type of gun make it a favourite just to throw in the truck for a fall drive to the dump etc. I primarily used #4 for rabbit and 7.5's for grouse. I shot many porcipines (aka Porkies) with .410 slugs, dispatching them easily. At 25 yards a .410 slug has as much pwer as a 30-30 but would never be my choice to shot any large game. As for .410 shotguns - .410's are most common in single shots. The nicest I have shot was a side by side Browning... It balanced like a dream. I currently own a pump action Rem 870 in .410 and love it. My 2 other .410's (A Steven's Bolt and an IVI SS perished in a house fire). BTW if anyone has a fine SxS or OU .410 that they want to part with, drop me a line.

Cheers.
 
I grew up using a .410 when I started hunting at 10yrs old, it's a great rabbit gun for the bush. The 1 I got is a really old single shot made in spain takes, 3" shells. I swear this gun weighs at most 1 pound.

Start off hunting with a .410 then move up to bigger gauges and you will become a better shooter.

I wonder has anyone tried using a .410 with slugs for coyotes?

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