What's a CZ 858 worth as parts with a cooked receiver?

[boss351cleveland]

Try reading this forum a little more closely; the CSA guns are plagued with problems. So many threads here about 858 issues that I now have NO regrets about selling mine off. Strangely they are still fellated by the peanut gallery as the best red rifle going, blindly in love with the "AK lookalike" that in reality is a piece of junk.

What a foolish statement full of fail ! With all models of guns that multiple factory's and company's make there will be crappy ones around , just like the WASR AKs and CenturyArms AKs in the US .. The VZ is a great military grade rifle if built correct . i have owned 4 some with very high round counts , no issues except the gremlin that is a byproduct of the rifle being semi auto because it originally was designed as a select fire weapon , easy fix a tabbed receiver . now many rifles come with that .. My 2009 CSA is flawless .. Yes it seems like there was a bad batch this year from CSA and .223 rifles will be crap ether way cause the rifle was not meant for that round . But there is no reason to call it a POS lol why the #### would the Czechs be using it so long ? Did you know it was made in 1958 and yet its lighter than a M4 and way lighter than a AK , did you know the Viet Cong preferred the VZ over the AK because it could be loaded on the fly with stripper clips , a life saving feature when theres a magazine shortage on the battlefield ..

 

[CZ_Brno]

Wolverine brought all the CZ 858's into this country. If VZ-58 parts won't fit maybe Wolverine can get parts for you.

maybe Wolverine can get parts for you

^^^
LOL. I just made a cruel joke.

 

[AK]

Wow, looks like a lot of hurt ######s in here. Let's see how many vz58/858 "problem" threads are on just the first three pages of this forum:

What's a CZ 858 worth as parts with a cooked receiver? (this thread) http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-CZ-858-worth-as-parts-with-a-cooked-receiver
Who has a 2012/2013 CSA VZ 58 and has or has not had bolt problems? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...SA-VZ-58-and-has-or-has-not-had-bolt-problems
VZ 58 problems and suggestions http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/956990-VZ-58-problems-and-suggestions
Talking about the cz858/cz58 gremlin (the short and skinny) http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...the-cz858-cz58-gremlin-(the-short-and-skinny)
cz 858 bolt not fully closed, help! http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/968276-cz-858-bolt-not-fully-closed-help!
CZ 858 Tac 2 Question? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/965963-CZ-858-Tac-2-Question
VZ58 experts, is this normal wear and tear? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/975927-VZ58-experts-is-this-normal-wear-and-tear
CZ 858 case stuck in chamber http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/965287-CZ-858-case-stuck-in-chamber
Chunk missing off face of CZ 858 bolt. http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/948736-Chunk-missing-off-face-of-CZ-858-bolt
VZ 58 Firing Pin http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/979282-VZ-58-Firing-Pin
Vz-58 question http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/977910-Vz-58-question

I rest my case.

 

[Rick911]

Wow, looks like a lot of hurt ######s in here. Let's see how many vz58/858 "problem" threads are on just the first three pages of this forum:

What's a CZ 858 worth as parts with a cooked receiver? (this thread) http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-CZ-858-worth-as-parts-with-a-cooked-receiver
Who has a 2012/2013 CSA VZ 58 and has or has not had bolt problems? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...SA-VZ-58-and-has-or-has-not-had-bolt-problems
VZ 58 problems and suggestions http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/956990-VZ-58-problems-and-suggestions
Talking about the cz858/cz58 gremlin (the short and skinny) http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...the-cz858-cz58-gremlin-(the-short-and-skinny)
cz 858 bolt not fully closed, help! http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/968276-cz-858-bolt-not-fully-closed-help!
CZ 858 Tac 2 Question? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/965963-CZ-858-Tac-2-Question
VZ58 experts, is this normal wear and tear? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/975927-VZ58-experts-is-this-normal-wear-and-tear
CZ 858 case stuck in chamber http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/965287-CZ-858-case-stuck-in-chamber
Chunk missing off face of CZ 858 bolt. http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/948736-Chunk-missing-off-face-of-CZ-858-bolt
VZ 58 Firing Pin http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/979282-VZ-58-Firing-Pin
Vz-58 question http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/977910-Vz-58-question

I rest my case.

Thanks for your very scientific statistics.

 

[boss351cleveland]

Wow, looks like a lot of hurt ######s in here. Let's see how many vz58/858 "problem" threads are on just the first three pages of this forum:

What's a CZ 858 worth as parts with a cooked receiver? (this thread) http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-CZ-858-worth-as-parts-with-a-cooked-receiver
Who has a 2012/2013 CSA VZ 58 and has or has not had bolt problems? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...SA-VZ-58-and-has-or-has-not-had-bolt-problems
VZ 58 problems and suggestions http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/956990-VZ-58-problems-and-suggestions
Talking about the cz858/cz58 gremlin (the short and skinny) http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...the-cz858-cz58-gremlin-(the-short-and-skinny)
cz 858 bolt not fully closed, help! http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/968276-cz-858-bolt-not-fully-closed-help!
CZ 858 Tac 2 Question? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/965963-CZ-858-Tac-2-Question
VZ58 experts, is this normal wear and tear? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/975927-VZ58-experts-is-this-normal-wear-and-tear
CZ 858 case stuck in chamber http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/965287-CZ-858-case-stuck-in-chamber
Chunk missing off face of CZ 858 bolt. http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/948736-Chunk-missing-off-face-of-CZ-858-bolt
VZ 58 Firing Pin http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/979282-VZ-58-Firing-Pin
Vz-58 question http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/977910-Vz-58-question

I rest my case.

Clearly the only ###### here is you, u read 10 CGN threads to determine a rifles end all reputation ? most a result of worn out parts really?? LOLOL .. Please go on a US gun forum and search ''AK47, WASR ,Tantal ''issues'' see how many threads u find man .. The VZ is battle proven and is the primary service rifle of a few countries but because we got one bad batch from CSA u call them #### lol .. But that dont mean #### cause u think gun forums are the end all knowledge.. LOL I have a 858 with over 10000 rounds only part that went was a extractor , doubt u even fire 1000 rds a year just a city slicker keyboard warrior im guessing ..

 

[223762]

looks pretty good here

 

[Dad003]

Clearly the only ###### here is you, u read 10 CGN threads to determine a rifles end all reputation ? most a result of worn out parts really?? LOLOL .. Please go on a US gun forum and search ''AK47, WASR ,Tantal ''issues'' see how many threads u find man .. The VZ is battle proven and is the primary service rifle of a few countries but because we got one bad batch from CSA u call them #### lol .. But that dont mean #### cause u think gun forums are the end all knowledge.. LOL I have a 858 with over 10000 rounds only part that went was a extractor , doubt u even fire 1000 rds a year just a city slicker keyboard warrior im guessing ..

Same for me my cz has a little more than 3k in and the only thing i change was the stryker mine has begin to crack after 1500-2000 rounds , i tabbed it because every time someone else was shooting it the gremlin appear but never too me ! i like that rifle and accuracy with the iron sight is not too bad

 

[TheArmyMan204]

Everybody is a ###### except me. Haha just kidding I'm also a ######.

To the op (and back on topic) the parts are worth about 100$. At least that's what's the part kits from wolverine cost and came with everything except the reciver, barrel and butt stock. You might get a little higher pricing now because of the lack of part kits now but put it up on the ee and see!

And my cz858 is still my main gun. My xcr is still in its trial phase with me and I don't trust it enough yet. I am more accurate at 300 yards and under with semi-rapid fire with my cz irons then my scoped xcr lol, mind you I have a lot more time behind my CZ but anyone who says its junk I invite to come shoot with me. I'll let my rifle do the talking.

 

[AK]

Clearly the only ###### here is you, u read 10 CGN threads to determine a rifles end all reputation ? most a result of worn out parts really?? LOLOL .. Please go on a US gun forum and search ''AK47, WASR ,Tantal ''issues'' see how many threads u find man .. The VZ is battle proven and is the primary service rifle of a few countries but because we got one bad batch from CSA u call them #### lol .. But that dont mean #### cause u think gun forums are the end all knowledge.. LOL I have a 858 with over 10000 rounds only part that went was a extractor , doubt u even fire 1000 rds a year just a city slicker keyboard warrior im guessing ..

I'm very intimidated by your online demeanor and take at face value everything you say. I defer to your superior intellect and wisdom that is rife with profanity, ad hominem attacks, and baseless counter arguments. Clearly your one year amongst us has imbued you with an advanced knowledge base that clearly manifests itself in each of your posts. You are a credit to our community and I must be ostracized for my shameful heresy.

Or perhaps you're just as much a tool as the junk rifle you claim to possess. LOL.

 

[Dmitri]

CZ is better rifle than AK.. Just less common/popular..

The cooked receiver you mentioned was damaged while refinishing by Rouch Tactical...

You are way off, stop spreading rumors.

 

[andrew3081]

Youmad ?




Yep you'll need them.

Here come the vz58 hater

 

[ridgearms]

The ###### talk gave me many laughs. Honestly though, unless someone has some cold hard data that leads to some defined problems it's all a wasted argument.

 

[mark k]

To all those inquiring, I'm not interested in selling. I just wanted to gauge what it might be worth.

 

[Gunusr]

Wow, looks like a lot of hurt ######s in here. Let's see how many vz58/858 "problem" threads are on just the first three pages of this forum:

What's a CZ 858 worth as parts with a cooked receiver? (this thread) http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-CZ-858-worth-as-parts-with-a-cooked-receiver
Who has a 2012/2013 CSA VZ 58 and has or has not had bolt problems? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...SA-VZ-58-and-has-or-has-not-had-bolt-problems
VZ 58 problems and suggestions http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/956990-VZ-58-problems-and-suggestions
Talking about the cz858/cz58 gremlin (the short and skinny) http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...the-cz858-cz58-gremlin-(the-short-and-skinny)
cz 858 bolt not fully closed, help! http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/968276-cz-858-bolt-not-fully-closed-help!
CZ 858 Tac 2 Question? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/965963-CZ-858-Tac-2-Question
VZ58 experts, is this normal wear and tear? http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/975927-VZ58-experts-is-this-normal-wear-and-tear
CZ 858 case stuck in chamber http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/965287-CZ-858-case-stuck-in-chamber
Chunk missing off face of CZ 858 bolt. http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/948736-Chunk-missing-off-face-of-CZ-858-bolt
VZ 58 Firing Pin http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/979282-VZ-58-Firing-Pin
Vz-58 question http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/977910-Vz-58-question

I rest my case.

All of these are cases of user error. They should not have tried to get it refinished, or use ammo in it, or pull the trigger etc...

 

[Sevensixtwo]

Hahahahahahahah user error shouldn't have tried to use ammo in it!!!!! Hahahaha

 

[Sevensixtwo]

My bolt broke today... I am sad

 

[can14]

Bought an 858 and the parts kit. Guns still runs years later and have not take any parts from the parts kit yet!

 

[lmar]

bought an 858 and the parts kit. Guns still runs years later and have not take any parts from the parts kit yet!

+1

l

 

[ztunelover]

+1

l

make that plus 2, I wonder if wolverine or anyone else might be bringing in more, I will probably buy another one.

 

[trentderkatz@sasktel.net]

hey do you still have that 858 for sale?