Whats a good ladies caliber?

An ex girlfriend shot my PH Safari in 300Win Mag a whole lot better than I did .
She was 5'7'' and 135 ish.
So, I would suggest get her what she wants for the game or target you intend her to shoot.
Nothing wrong with a nice well fitted same caliber as you though.
Just my under caffinated opine today,
Rob
 
hey boomer

do you have any more details on your wife's 30/06. my wife is comfortable with the recoil of my 7mm but needs a rifle more her size, and that husky looks like it would fit the bill.


thanks

fuzzy

That rifle did have a fair bit of tweaking done to it. The LOP was cut to 12" with the addition of a Decelerator, which made it short enough that she could use it in a hurry while wearing her heavy parka. I can shoot it without difficulty despite the short length. The stock was glass and pillar bedded. The factory front sight ramp was replaced with a Ruger barrel band, a style I like a lot, and the rear sight is an XS ghost ring. There is a forward base for a scope mount but she prefers the irons, so I might remove it. The action screws were replaced with hex head screws and the metal was coated with GunKote. I did have a swivel stud just in front of the floorplate so I could install a 3 point Ching Sling, but when I saw the Safari Ching Sling I chose it instead and dispensed with the forward attachment point.
 
My wife shoots the 7mm-08 no problem,both daughters have also shot it when they were 12-14 years old without any problems.recoil is quite moderate.The smaller chamber carbines are a dream to carry all day long...........Did I mention I also shoot a 7mm-08 :).
 
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Ruger M77 MkII Compact or Frontier stainless in .7mm-08 or .308. personally i would go with the latter, since factory ammo is around $10 cheaper a box, managed recoil loads are widely available, and it leaves room for growth.
women really like these for some reason - they gravitate to this as their 'favorite' gun. it might just be the laminate, chicks are suckers for laminate :D
recoil is not bad even with full power .308 loads, but the Ruger recoil pad leaves a lot of room for improvement so recoil could be further tamed with a premium pad.
 
I put together a .257 Ackley on a M70 Featherweight for my wife after she shot her first couple deer with my pre-64 .270. The hunting experiment only lasted a couple years, and only included deer. The choice worked out well enough, but no better than a 25-06, Roberts or any one of a dozen light recoiling cartridges would have. Modest cartridges, and modest ranges go well with beginners of either ###. Size and weight can be more important considerations.
 
Was gone for a couple days, sorry about the delayed response.

First of all, by ladies caliber I meant something with less recoil to get her into it. I'm sure lots of women shoot bigger calibers just fine, but as mentioned I do not want to scare her off by throwing something big at her right away. And I in no way intented to imply that our service men and women shoot less than a "ladies gun", I have nothing but utmost respect for them and what they do.

I appreciate all the different caliber suggestions, but as I mentioned I have decided on either a Marlin or Tikka, leaning towards the marlin. So all the mentioned calibers that are not available in these guns, while all good choices, are out of the picture.

So back to my original question, is there a large difference in recoil and accuracy (yes I know its mostly the shooter, but I mean does one shell seem to be more inherently accurate than the other?) between the 25-06 and 7mm-08? Is one able to perform farther down range than the other?
 
I'd take the .25-06 and try loads with IMR4895 and IMR4064.

You should be able to get good velocity out of it with 100 to 120gr bullets using quite light charges of those relatively fast powders.

For example, out of Nosler's No.4 Manual, 40gr of IMR4064 would put a 100gr Partition right at 3000fps. That gives you similar velocity and powder charge as a .243 Win., which equals similar recoil. And we know how mild a .243 is in the recoil department.

Or how about 35gr of IMR4895 with that same 100gr Partition and you get about 2750fps? That duplicates a standard 100gr load in the .250-3000, which has proven itself many thousands of times on deer sized game. That would recoil less than a .243 Win.

You can also try 115 and 120gr bullets at ~2800fps. I am sure that would do very well on game and still be very mild in the recoil department. Turn it up on those 120gr bullets to +3000fps and she will be able to takle even Elk and Moose.
 
So back to my original question, is there a large difference in recoil and accuracy (yes I know its mostly the shooter, but I mean does one shell seem to be more inherently accurate than the other?) between the 25-06 and 7mm-08? Is one able to perform farther down range than the other?

The .25/06 is likely the flattest shooting commercially available round out there, but in practical field shooting the difference between one flat shooting round, lets say the .25/06 and another lets say the 7-08, would be difficult to exploit. If for example the .25/06 impacts 5" low at 300 and the 7-08 impacts 7" low, when both are zeroed for 200, who can make use of the 2" that you can't even see at 300 yards?

Be that as it may, the .25/06 will produce less recoil than the 7-08 in equal weight guns when both are firing bullet weights suitable for big game . . . advantage .25/06. 7mm bullets come in heavier weights than .25s, so if game larger than deer are to be contemplated the 7mm has the advantage, although a pal of mine used to kill moose and bears with his .25/06, and has no preference between the .25/06 and his son's 7X57, they both kill he says. The 7X57 is virtually a ballistic twin to the 7-08.

The importance of precision accuracy as far as I'm concerned is overrated in big game rifles. Who cares if a rifle will print 5 in half an inch at 200 when the target is a bounding 250 pound deer at 80 yards. It's irrelevant, but more importantly it is not worth paying extra for. If you happen to have an exceptionally accurate big game rifle, it is indeed a gem as we all appreciate accurate rifles, but it will harvest big game no better than a 2 minute rifle chambered for the same cartridge. What is important is that the first shot out of a cold barrel always hits the point of aim, and that is something that is more difficult to arrange in a light barrel hunting rifle. Now if the rifle is going to double as a varmint rifle accuracy is of greater importance, but a dedicated big game rifle that can shoot within a minute and a half is plenty accurate, particularly when in the field few of us can shoot under 2 minutes on demand. When it comes to off the shelf factory rifles, I doubt if there is much difference in accuracy between one chambering and another. Tikka does have a reputation for producing accurate rifles, and I think one of their rifles topped with a low power variable scope would be a good choice for your wife regardless of which cartridge you choose for her.
 
I think I'll go with the 25-06.. something nice and light to start out on. If she ever needs something bigger, it can be borrowed from one of several people. The lighter bullet doesn't concern me too much. If I reload the right bullets for her, as long as she hits where it needs to go there will be no problems. And if not, the bullet weight really doesn't matter :(
 
Accuracy has far, far, more to do with shooting experience and shooting skill then the guns capabilities (certainly differences between various calibres). It shouldnt be a worry in most cases.

Remember, you're shooting big game, not flies off the side of a barn at 500 paces.

Yup... In most cases guns are generally more accurate than the owners actual (non-benchrest) capability's.
 
Every gun is different, "she' has to try what she likes. My wife likes the CZ 858 but not the SKS, the SIG 226 but not the Glock 17 and so on.

Recoil can be reduced with recoil buffers, some guns have more recoil than others.

In regards to buying a gun for her, personally, I would not recommend buying a gun for a person, she/he has to like it, women usually know what they want, so buying one for her is not the right way IMHO. Do you want her to say "yes my dear, what a nice gift" but inside she doesn't like it?
 
As I have already stated, I know what guns she likes. And as already stated, I am not asking the best way to pick out a gun for her, I am asking the differences between calibers. So instead of repeatedly telling me I am going about buying her a gun wrong, keep in mind that no one on this forum knows her (at all), let alone as well as I do, so lets stick to the topic.
 
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