What's Going On at Crusader Arms ?

[446]

MARCH 25 UPDATE

Hey Guys, here is the update on my situation. on Monday 21st, I wrote an email to Crusader Arms, as I didn't get an answer (reply) to my last email of March 14th.
I included the link to this Post, and I got an answer shortly after with a Great NEWS. Finally, A Rifle was shipped out to me on Friday 17th.

I Received my Rifle on the 22nd , I am Really please with the rifle, It looks really tough and well made. This thing is built to last. I can understand that's why it's backed by a Transferable Lifetime warranty!


In Conclusion, for me it was a painful, stressful and deceptive experience to have to wait so long to get my Rifle. But Finally was worth the Wait!

I understand that Crusader Arms is a relatively New manufacturer expanding. They are a small team who are trying their best to keep up with the High volume of demand for their Great Rifles. They going through growing pains of such conditions.

From my numerous messages exchanges with their team, I realize that they are taking notes and trying to improve their Customer service experience from time to time.


It's looking Promising for the Future. I do recommend you to support Them and buy their excellent rifles. Just be aware that It may Takes longer delays than advertised and anticipated!

If you are ready to wait, You love your rifle as much that I Do.

 

[C10]

I’m mostly annoyed that I was told “it’ll be shipped next week” every 2 weeks for a few months now

 

[Super Mario]

They based this gun around a stock produced in small volume for a gun that's no longer made? Weird.

It kinda makes sense at the same time though...

 

[JL1138]

So hows it shoot? Are you liking it so far?

 

[MacPapRonin]

It kinda makes sense at the same time though...

The stock is made by F5 Mfg and has an adapter specifically for this rifle. It is not the Magpul ACR or Bushmaster ACR stock, even though it resembles it.

As has been previously mentioned, you can buy a version of this rifle which has an adapter for standard AR15-style buffer-tube compatible tube stocks, even though the AR-180 design does not require a buffer tube.

 

[CobraGT]

MARCH 25 UPDATE

Hey Guys, here is the update on my situation. on Monday 21st, I wrote an email to Crusader Arms, as I didn't get an answer (reply) to my last email of March 14th.
I included the link to this Post, and I got an answer shortly after with a Great NEWS. Finally, A Rifle was shipped out to me on Friday 17th.

I Received my Rifle on the 22nd , I am Really please with the rifle, It looks really tough and well made. This thing is built to last. I can understand that's why it's backed by a Transferable Lifetime warranty!


In Conclusion, for me it was a painful, stressful and deceptive experience to have to wait so long to get my Rifle. But Finally was worth the Wait!

I understand that Crusader Arms is a relatively New manufacturer expanding. They are a small team who are trying their best to keep up with the High volume of demand for their Great Rifles. They going through growing pains of such conditions.

From my numerous messages exchanges with their team, I realize that they are taking notes and trying to improve their Customer service experience from time to time.


It's looking Promising for the Future. I do recommend you to support Them and buy their excellent rifles. Just be aware that It may Takes longer delays than advertised and anticipated!

If you are ready to wait, You love your rifle as much that I Do.

For your Eyes here is the picture of my New Fully Dress-up Templar Rifle

GlaD you received It, and Are happy With it, but what'S with all The random CapiTalizations??

 

[Bartok5]

Notwithstanding their atrocious start-up Customer Service reputation, I must say that I am still thoroughly enjoying my Crusader Templar. For just over $2K with the Trigger Tech Trigger on board, it is a reliable, straight-shooting NR AR180 derivative that is over-built to last. The down-side is the Templar's excessive weight, which I still contend could be reduced with a few fairly easy machining steps, more than offset by the cancellation of the expensive and time-consuming machining associated with the steel "Wear Plate" on the Left Side of the Rifle for the Cam Track. That's right, I contend that the entire wear plate is unnecessary if the rifle is correctly toleranced. Therre ought to be little to no contact between the steel Cam Pin and the aluminum Upper Receeiver. Other areas for weight savings include hollowing out and reducing the interior size of the Bolt Carrier without changing the external dimensions and fluting the Barrel between the Chamber and Gas Block, and again from the Gas Block to the Muzzle Defice. I expect that a full pound and possibly closer to a Kg could be shaved off of the current Templar's weight. Hopefully given some time to catch-up and react, Crusader will adopt some of our suggestions for improvement to the platform. As it is, there is plenty to like for the price-point, starting with the reliability and durability of the over-built Templar. This is one AR180 derivative design that can stand up to a high round-count and some user abuse.

Anyhow, I'm still liking my Templar, weight and all. Then again, I am mostly a bench rest shooter, so the weight is largely irrelevant to me.

 

[JL1138]

Thanks for the update! I was thinking about getting one - but also curious about the Crux. The Crusader as a 7.62 sounds mighty appealing.

 

[446]

GlaD you received It, and Are happy With it, but what'S with all The random CapiTalizations??

Hi,
Thanks for bringing that strange grammar oddity under the spotlight. It prove that you really are a guy who care about details.

I'm sorry about that and will definitely do my best to avoid that in my next posts. But you can admit that for a french guy, I am not that bad.

At Least I can communicate in both languages, can you?


Thanks again!

 

[Painkillers]

^^^Yea, we're Grammar Nazi's, rich coming from a Quebecer who's language laws are unprecedented anywhere in the west.

 

[the radium king]

Notwithstanding their atrocious start-up Customer Service reputation, I must say that I am still thoroughly enjoying my Crusader Templar. For just over $2K with the Trigger Tech Trigger on board, it is a reliable, straight-shooting NR AR180 derivative that is over-built to last. The down-side is the Templar's excessive weight, which I still contend could be reduced with a few fairly easy machining steps, more than offset by the cancellation of the expensive and time-consuming machining associated with the steel "Wear Plate" on the Left Side of the Rifle for the Cam Track. That's right, I contend that the entire wear plate is unnecessary if the rifle is correctly toleranced. Therre ought to be little to no contact between the steel Cam Pin and the aluminum Upper Receeiver. Other areas for weight savings include hollowing out and reducing the interior size of the Bolt Carrier without changing the external dimensions and fluting the Barrel between the Chamber and Gas Block, and again from the Gas Block to the Muzzle Defice. I expect that a full pound and possibly closer to a Kg could be shaved off of the current Templar's weight. Hopefully given some time to catch-up and react, Crusader will adopt some of our suggestions for improvement to the platform. As it is, there is plenty to like for the price-point, starting with the reliability and durability of the over-built Templar. This is one AR180 derivative design that can stand up to a high round-count and some user abuse.

Anyhow, I'm still liking my Templar, weight and all. Then again, I am mostly a bench rest shooter, so the weight is largely irrelevant to me.

i wonder when a canadian company is going to do a polymer 180? at least the upper. steel insert for the cam track that extends forward to the barrel mount and perhaps down with a surface that mates with the lower (to avoid issues that entry level plastic guns have with dimension change after cooling that results in poor mating of upper and lower - didn't make sense in the plastic ARs as the cam track was on the top of the gun so too much metal, but with a 180 and the cam track on the side have the metal mating surface drop down just on the cam side - this way all critical dimensions are maintained). make the handguard plastic as well and you would really reduce the weight of one of these monolithic upper 180s ...

 

[Bartok5]

i wonder when a canadian company is going to do a polymer 180? at least the upper. steel insert for the cam track that extends forward to the barrel mount and perhaps down with a surface that mates with the lower (to avoid issues that entry level plastic guns have with dimension change after cooling that results in poor mating of upper and lower - didn't make sense in the plastic ARs as the cam track was on the top of the gun so too much metal, but with a 180 and the cam track on the side have the metal mating surface drop down just on the cam side - this way all critical dimensions are maintained). make the handguard plastic as well and you would really reduce the weight of one of these monolithic upper 180s ...

A polymer-Receivered AR180 is entirely conceivable, as much like an AR15, the firing perssures and resultant stresses are alll contained in the Bolt/Barrel Extension lock-up. I suspect that outrageous mould start-up costs are part of the issue. but I could be out to lunch. It wouldn't be the first time.....

 

[jamessmart24]

Hey guys, Picked up a templar a couple weeks ago. Just wanted to share some things I have found with mine so far. First off, Love the gun, as stated earlier it seems a little over built, but not necessarily a bad thing if you want a reliable gun. I don't mind the little extra weight, if you cant handle the extra pound or two you shouldn't be playing with big boy toys. Anyways, I bought the one with the buffer tube stock, as it was in stock and ready to go. it came with the 10 rd MFT pistol mag. right out of the box, the mag wouldn't stay locked in the magwell, at all. It would just fall out. Tried a buddies PMAG, it locked in fine, but the bolt would jam to the rear and not load the next round consistently. But, holding the pistol mag in, the gun cycles fine... Contacted FOC, where I bought the gun. They contacted Crusader, said they are aware of the mag issues with both the pistol mag and Gen 2 Pmags,(which mine was a gen 2) they are sending me a Gen3 Pmag assuring me it will work.
I compared both mags and found the issues were clear to see, the pistol mag is slightly narrower, allowing it to wiggle out of the lock. And the gen 2 Pmag has a rounded slot where the bolt catch rests, lifting it slightly higher than it should be. Simply taking a file or knife to and squaring out the slot fixed the issue for the Gen2 Pmag.
Just thought I would share this since there is not much feedback out there on this gun yet.

 

[CobraGT]

Hi,
Thanks for bringing that strange grammar oddity under the spotlight. It prove that you really are a guy who care about details.

I'm sorry about that and will definitely do my best to avoid that in my next posts. But you can admit that for a french guy, I am not that bad.

At Least I can communicate in both languages, can you?


Thanks again!

lol fair enough, and you've got me on the bilingual thing - my wife's from Paris, and she's always shaking her head at how bady my French sucks!