what's good for scent elimination

This man speaks the truth! I do everything I can to get 'em used to my smell. A week, at least, before the hunt, leave dirty socks/gitch, piss everywhere, rub your nuts on things. 60% of the time, it works - every time!

rral22 said:
Man, some people are willing to waste time and money on superstitious nonsense.

Most authorities believe deer can smell with about the same ability as dogs. We know lots about the olfactory powers of dogs, because we live with them and use that power whenever we can. Dogs have found drugs inside plastic bags inside sacks of coffee. Dogs are being used to detect cancer and predict epileptic seizures by smell. Bloodhounds have followed trails of people AFTER they got into a car and drove off. Do you really think that a nose like that can be fooled by some pine scent or some cow sh*t on your boots?

If you think that the fact YOU can't smell something means the deer can't, you are making a big mistake. If you think your special carbon impregnated suit will prevent farts from smelling, or your breath from stinking, or your armpit smells from escaping, you are just being silly. Nothing can prevent a deer's nose from detecting you if (a) it is down wind and (b) it is paying attention to its nose (which it almost always is). Deer and dogs live in a world of smell that we can't even imagine. Next time you see a buck scrape, go up and try to smell the hanging branch that always hangs over a scrape and which bucks mark with the scent glands near their eyes. You won't smell a thing, but it is a HUGE signpost to a deer. They can tell exactly who made the scrape from that scent alone, and you will smell nothing.

The only scent control that works is controlling where it goes. Your scent will go down wind no matter what crap you have smeared on yourself, or how much time your clothes have hung outside, or how much skunk stink you are willing to sit in all day. Stop buying (literally and metaphorically) that garbage.

Attractants are another story, and I believe you can get deer to approach the proper scents because they do that all the time in their daily lives, but there is no product or practice that can prevent human odor from going where the wind takes it.
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rral22 said:
I guess we know the limits of your hunting ability now, don't we.
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He has a point though, no matter how hard and how well you try and prepare yourself, you still are relying heavily on luck of the draw.

You may know that the deer cross through that opening, you may know you've used all the scent elimination products possible, you may be calling the deer exactly like a deer, you may have used doe in heat urine, you may be perfectly quite and still, and you may have God giving you his blessing directly for taking a deer that morning.

In the end, that 5-15km trail that the deer go through, might mean they don't show up to your stand till the next day, or even showed up the day before opening.

You might have expected it this morning based on trail cams of it crossing every 2 days, but a hunter the next farm over shot it before it could cross the fence line.

You may end up finding coyotes have killed it before you could go hunting for it.

You may find that the buck smelled a temping doe and decided to go left instead of right on it's trail, and headed the wrong direction away from you.

There are so many little things that can happen, that at the end of the day, you do what you can, but your still rolling the dice.

Dimitri
 
I throw clean compost (pine needles, peet moss or loam) in with my stuff a couple of days before the season. Hygeine is important as smelling like a$$ is neither polite or productive. Using the wind to your advantage is the BE ALL / END ALL....and it's free.
 
Dimitri said:
He has a point though, no matter how hard and how well you try and prepare yourself, you still are relying heavily on luck of the draw.

You may know that the deer cross through that opening, you may know you've used all the scent elimination products possible, you may be calling the deer exactly like a deer, you may have used doe in heat urine, you may be perfectly quite and still, and you may have God giving you his blessing directly for taking a deer that morning.

In the end, that 5-15km trail that the deer go through, might mean they don't show up to your stand till the next day, or even showed up the day before opening.

You might have expected it this morning based on trail cams of it crossing every 2 days, but a hunter the next farm over shot it before it could cross the fence line.

You may end up finding coyotes have killed it before you could go hunting for it.

You may find that the buck smelled a temping doe and decided to go left instead of right on it's trail, and headed the wrong direction away from you.

There are so many little things that can happen, that at the end of the day, you do what you can, but your still rolling the dice.

Dimitri
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I disagree. We are not rolling dice. Those who put in the time and get to know their properties and the animals on them can accurately predict the outcome. We shot 3 bucks from 1 treestand already this year and in the last day 3 new bucks have moved into the bush thanks to outside hunting pressure. I saw the big guy last night, and based on the geographical layout and the location of the does on the property, I can accurately predict the runway which the big buck will be using. Granted time and effort are required along with scent and camo techiques, however that deer is absolutely attainable in the next 2 weeks, especially while he's in rut. (The rut turned on HARD 2 days ago)
 
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