What's it worth? Swift Training Rifle MKIII (pin firing thing?

[Armedsask]

I was talking with one of the local farmers at work today and we some how got on the topic of firearms. He mentioned he had a little rifle that shot a pin out the front. I checked around Google and after seeing the rifle in person I have found it to be a Swift Training Rifle MKIII (as shown here: http://www.rifleman.org.uk/The_Swift_training_rifle.html)

The little trainer is in very good shape. Some surface rust from long term storage in the garage, but it functions fine. Still in the transport case marked RAF (some damage), even has some of the training targets (Mice got the corners chewed off).

So what would something like this be worth? While talking to him he said he almost threw it out once.

 

[Armedsask]

Bump.

Any body?

 

[BadgerDog]

Well, I Googled "swift training rifle price" and got $199 for the first entry.......

http://www.lowescertifiedguns.com/browseproducts/Swift-Training-Rifle---Enfield.html

I didn't bother to go further.....

Regards,
Badger

 

[myenfield]

Swift Trainer

Wow...no one has responded to this yet! I have seen a few Swift trainers for sale over the last few years, anywhere from $90 to $400. As with "real guns", condition makes a huge difference. Check the pins that pop out to pierce the paper, as they are often broken off. Having the transit case is a benefit as well. Is the paper drawing of the internal parts still inside the lid? Apparently these came with a small metal pin that is inserted into the butt to hold the spring loaded butt plate in the compressed position, and I think a target holder as well. Unfortunately I don't have those bits for either of mine. Realistically, I would expect a good one complete with case should be worth at least $200. I have seen versions that resemble the P'14 and versions that look like a Lee Enfield (phony wooden magazine screwed to the bottom of the stock ahead of the trigger guard). Longbranch also made a variation on the Swift, but they seem to be much more uncommon (and probably worth more).

 

[tiriaq]

The ones made at Long Branch are worth more than the UK ones, but $200 seems about right. I've seen them for more, and less.

 

[TheWharGoul]

haha.. I dont know about you guys but I laughed a bit when I seen this image.

haha, I love the random man saluting in the middle of a charge. (though in actual fact he is most likely motioning forward haha). It must just be the mood im in but found it rather funny.


haha, sorry about the randomness of that. Continue on.

 

[Armedsask]

I should get pictures. The case still has the parts drawing in the lid, it has one of each target shown on the link I provided. Wood is in great shape (no cracks or dings) but appears to have no finish? No target stand that I am aware of. I didn't think to check the pins closely, but they apeared to work fine and protrude out the front when fired.

 

[Mudpuppy]

haha.. I dont know about you guys but I laughed a bit when I seen this image.
haha, I love the random man saluting in the middle of a charge. (though in actual fact he is most likely motioning forward haha). It must just be the mood im in but found it rather funny.
haha, sorry about the randomness of that. Continue on.

If you take a closer look you will see that he is throwing a grenade, it's in the air to the left and above his hand.

 

[Unsub]

The first 3 germans in the picture are only 20 yards away, I would drop my swift and run for my life.

 

[John Sukey]

The first 3 germans in the picture are only 20 yards away, I would drop my swift and run for my life.

But thats a great time to fire the Vickers. You would get the lot!

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

The $200 to $400 price range is appropriate. Free if you can sweet-talk the owner. They are non-guns so you are buying them as militaria and ancillary collectables. Price, location, desire - the usual qualifiers on any purchase. If you are into Lee Enfields, by all means get this and the Aiming Rest (a gangly tall tripod affair) to round out the pieces.

 

[stencollector]

The first 3 germans in the picture are only 20 yards away, I would drop my swift and run for my life.

Coward. You need the huns to be within 2 inches for them to be in the swift's effective range.

 

[Gibbs505]

Aim for the ones hiding behind the trees!

 

[wobbles99]

If you take a closer look you will see that he is throwing a grenade, it's in the air to the left and above his hand.

Now that you mention it. It looks like he's throwing a pineapple but on his belt he clearly has a stick grenade.

Maybe some allied soldier forgot to pull the pin and he was simply tossing it back to him?

 

[Armedsask]

Maybe some allied soldier forgot to pull the pin and he was simply tossing it back to him?

Or he is going to catch an incoming?

 

[jjwelin]

Or he is going to catch an incoming?

Where'd you find this?? I was loaned one to play with by a friend of my dad's when i was a kid.

I always thought I should try to buy it, until the old guy died...

Wondering if it's the same one. Did you find it near Turtleford?

 

[Armedsask]

No, one of the local guys has it. He said he isn't interested in selling it now that he knows what it is.

I tried to tell him it was only worth $20 and then offer him $50 for it, but I couldn't bethat mean.