What's my P14 worth

Bolivar

Bolivar

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I am considering parting with an old friend. She and I just don't get out like we used to so the time may have to go.

Eddystone P14, complete with volley sights and correct bayo. Crack in stock on right side of magazine well, pin repaired. Stock is marked with a cross indicating "Emergency Use Only". I have glue a piece of sheet metal on the inside of the stock at the crack for extra support. Not visible. I have been shooting the rifle for over 10 years with no problem.

I frankly have no idea what it's worth so I thought I would do some research here so I don't make a compete ass of myself if/when I post it on EE.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Bolivar

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Wow, super nice. Volley sights appear to be intact.

What happened to the right side of the stock around the magazine ? These stocks are quite robust so I wonder what happened to the rifle to cause a serious crack like that at one point. That may or may not hurt your selling point but it honestly depends on the buyer.

Is there any green paint on the metal under the stock line ?

Matching numbers for bolt and receiver ?

You have a May, 1917 dated P.13 bayonet made by Remington with scabbard, very nice too! I'm not sure what these sell for by themselves.

I got my matching numbers Winchester P14 for $375 a few months back, no bayonet though. Her quality of make puts many of my other firearms to shame.

By the way, I thought I would point out for fun that I use the same cleaning patches you do :D.
 
Nabs

Yup, volley sights are intact. No idea what happened to the stock. Since it was marked "Emergency Use Only" I have to assume it an old crack. As for the repair....no idea. Appears to be brass nails filed flush. Could be arsenal.

Numbers match. I bought if from Epps at least 10 years ago. My registration card is plastic if that helps for telling how long I have had it. Never thought I would consider selling her but she does not get out much anymore at all.
 
Honest use P-14, If that rifle could talk. Hows the bore? The brass pin is normal for the P-14 and P-17, that reinforces the stock in front of the trigger, it's not a repair.

As for value, If the serial numbers match and the bore is VG, $275 to $350 add $100 for the bayonet. It's not pretty, but to a collector it's worth it's weight in gold.
 
That little cross under stock disc looks very much like Portuguese cross found on their flag.

Was this rifle in their hands at some point?
 
Nabs said:
I find it interesting how your disc is steel and my P14 is brass ?
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Is you brass blank or foes it have unit designation?

Again, if the stock was damaged or flawed and it was marked "emergency use only" it would make sence that it wad not issued to a unit and hence did not have a brass disk.

More knolegeble members of this board may be able to provide support to my theory or provide an alternate.
 
No, there is no unit marking. My P14 was made by Winchester in 1917 and I do not think they were stamping unit markings on discs at that point in the war.

I'm still trying to imagine what could have caused that stock crack on your rifle, perhaps she was dropped too hard during training ?
 
Maybe, or simply a flaw in the wood. It is a natual product, to synthetic. The wood is also relative thin in that area of the stock. At least it has never been a problem for me. The gun shoots 2-3 MOA at 100. I even shot it at 1000 this year. I could reliably keep hits in the 4 foot black circle. All bullseyes were luck though in my opinion.
 
The P14s were extremely well made. I have only fired five shots out of mine but it is hardly a test of accuracy. From some photos I have seen, these rifles were used by snipers in both world wars.
 
Proper marking for an Emergency Use rifle is "E.Y.".

Your cross looks very like a national or unit marking.

A LOT of P.-'14 rifles were given out as aid to smaller countries after World War One. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, just for three, received extensive military aid. I have a photo around here of a Latvian Sopwith Camel, of all things. I really think you should look at a Portuguese flag some time. Or, even more fun, ask the Portuguese Army Museum. They will know, if anyone.

Nice rifle.
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It does look a bit like the Portuguese cross. Never heard of them using P14s though but I'm no expert. As far as I know they used mausers.

If its Latvian, Estonian or Lithuanian that would be pretty neat.
 
In relation to another post, Britain did provide Portugal with military aid during WW1...maybe this is an example and marked as such ?
 
Don't know, right now it is only speculation.

If I learned anything from my previous selling on the EE, it is that rarity and value do not always go hand in hand versus demand.
 
I think I can say that the biggest hurdle for her to sell on the EE will be the repaired cracked in the stock. Even if it is as solid as a rock, you will get some people who think otherwise.

Other than that I can't see any problem with her.
 
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