What's the best .223 for under $1100.00?

KDX,
Heres my Savage Model 12LPV in .223; great rifle for the money (approx. $800)
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Can`t wait to spend more time with her when the weather improves!
Steve
 
sm...that's a beautiful looking gun. I like wood, but prefer synthetics for their ability to not get nicked or scratched. If I bought a rifle strictly for the range, it would look like that.
 
That is a beautiful Rifle. I am personally a fan of everything except synthetic stocks. They are just not my thing. Would most people agree that Savage rifles are probably the most accurate out of the box rifles that are within a reasonable price range? I used to think that Savage were just cheap rifles but as I learn more about guns and shooting I have come to realise that Savage make some pretty outstanding rifles.
 
sm - What a beauty!

Bull's-Eye - Savage makes a great rifle that is usually shipped in a pos synthetic stock. Fantastic value for the price.

Now my question: Is the Remington 700SPS as accurate out of the box as the Savage?
 
My first pick would be a Savage or Stevens 200(they all shoot)or a Weatherby Vangaurd and you still have money left over for some good optic's
 
Thanks KDX/Bullseye/Cariboo for the comments! When you get to hold one of these and check out the fit and finish it is good quality for a production rifle.
I really have not had time to fine tune (just break-in) so if anyone has some recommendations as far as bullet weights etc or ammo brands just let me know. KDX have you any advice for ammo as your rifle and mine are similar? I have some Black Hills, Hornady, and Federal stuff in the 50-55gr range with the V-Max bullet style so I will give that a try first.
Take care and have a safe New Year,
Steve
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even though you already bought your gun... for anyone else follwoing the thread, i would Highly reccomend the Tikka. I have not tried the Varmint series yet, but I love my T3 lite (22-250) I can only imagine the Varmint version being better. With handloaded 55gr Vmax bullets I was able to get a 3/8" group at 100. I have to get back to the range to confirm i can get this group consistently.
 
sm said:
Thanks KDX/Bullseye/Cariboo for the comments! When you get to hold one of these and check out the fit and finish it is good quality for a production rifle.
I really have not had time to fine tune (just break-in) so if anyone has some recommendations as far as bullet weights etc or ammo brands just let me know. KDX have you any advice for ammo as your rifle and mine are similar? I have some Black Hills, Hornady, and Federal stuff in the 50-55gr range with the V-Max bullet style so I will give that a try first.
Take care and have a safe New Year,
Steve

What is your goal for this rifle? It sounds like coyotes with the vmax, so I'm going to assume it's yotes and base my comments on that.

Are you wanting to preserve the fur, or just make them really dead, really fast? If you just want them dead fast, then vmax is your ticket.

The hornady factory vmax loads have worked very well for me as far as accuracy and killing power, but were very destructive on the fur. You won't have any problem killing them with vmax, any hit in the chest area does enough damage to kill them.

The 55 grain would blow huge exit wounds even at 300 yards without hitting any major bone. I switched down to the 40 grain and found I got smaller groups. Unfortunately they had a tendancy to expand too soon and blow a fist sized entrance hole into the yote. I never had the opportunity to try a 50 grain vmax, it might preserve more furs. I also found it was difficult to get similar accuracy with the vmax when handloading.

I think a 40 grain vmax at a slower than factory velocity would perform better, getting inside the body/fur before exploding. I'm experimenting with non-fragmenting bullets now, accepting that I'll have an exit hole to sew up and trying to find a load that will keep both holes small while still giving the yote the quick death all animals deserve. 55 grain Sierra sp's look good so far, I'm going to try nosler bt's next.

Several experienced yote slayers have recommend the 50-55 bt to me for an accurate fur friendly yote load. I've got a few loaded up here, just waiting for some decent weather to sight them in at the range.
 
I will post some pics after tomorrow. My wife has the camera and she went to visit her family. I picked up some reloading equipment (and a Lyman manual) and will be trying out some 53 grain Hornady Match HP bullets with Benchmark powder for my first loads. I had a thread in the reloading forum and some of the guys figured that the HP bullets were pretty fur friendly as well as being accurate and the manual lists Benchmark as being the best powder for the 52 grain bullet.
 
Savage Model 10FP .223 with B-Square one piece base, Leupold rings and Nikon Buckmasters 4.5-14X40 side focus scope.

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What does the 10fp cost these days?

The heavy barrel savages that I've handled felt like they'd be unpleasant to haul for long distances in the bush. Do you get used to it, or do you only use yours for the range?
 
WWS has them for around $600.00. So far I've only had it out a couple of times sighting it in. I'll be going out for coyotes in the next few days and will let you know how heavy it feels after that. I have no intention of walking miles with it, so it shouldn't be too bad.
 
Stevens 200 in 223, there are prettier rifles but not many are more accurate!
Of coarse I would never buy one :eek:
bigbull
 
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