What's the knock on Glocks??
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Ar180shooter
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Glock: Maiming rednecks since 1982
But seriously, they are great pistols with a proven track record. Reliable, accurate (enough) and lightweight.
But seriously, they are great pistols with a proven track record. Reliable, accurate (enough) and lightweight.
Fit means very little in terms of performance...and glocks will go bang for one person as well as the next.
Line up the sights and squeeze the trigger properly and it will work equally well for you as for anyone else.
I don't like it when people say "I've shot 10000 rounds through my glock and never had a failure."
I've shot about that many and I've had a handful of failures.
They were mostly operator, mag, and ammunition related - but to claim that any gun will never fail, I feel, is disingenuous. I worked at a range where Glocks broke very often (around 6 months to a year), primarily because repeated limp wristing, occasional dropping, and various other forms of abuse not typical of experienced shooters would cause various mechanical failures (and stoppages).
I like Glocks and have 2, but I'll never say it will shoot everytime and won't ever fail.
I've shot about that many and I've had a handful of failures.
They were mostly operator, mag, and ammunition related - but to claim that any gun will never fail, I feel, is disingenuous. I worked at a range where Glocks broke very often (around 6 months to a year), primarily because repeated limp wristing, occasional dropping, and various other forms of abuse not typical of experienced shooters would cause various mechanical failures (and stoppages).
I like Glocks and have 2, but I'll never say it will shoot everytime and won't ever fail.
Sorry if i said something you didn't like! It is getting harder everyday not to offend anyone. My rounds through my G17 are more likely much closer to 15,000 than the 10,000 I stated. I have seen Glocks fail as well if that makes you feel better. Hope you are not insinuating that I am lying because I am not.
Talking about rednecks (not that there's anything wrong with them ...
) and Glocks.
You are a redneck if like Glocks or you are a redneck if you hate them?
IMHO I think Glocks' boredom
works in their favour here; they may be redneck neutral.
) and Glocks.You are a redneck if like Glocks or you are a redneck if you hate them?
IMHO I think Glocks' boredom
works in their favour here; they may be redneck neutral.
No one said they were not good guns.. again with the Glock owners getting their haunches up for no good reason...
Everyone has a personal preference ( which is true from the type of laptop they use, size of tv they watch, vehicle they drive right to their brand / type of underwear). Their preference for whatever reason (asthetics, fit, feel, finances, trigger etc etc etc) extends to their firearms. Some guys like single shot shotguns, some like bolt guns, some like semi's, some like all guns some dislike them all. It's a matter of preference and when it comes to personal prefernce no one is *really* wrong or right... well ok some are but that's besides the point.
You may have other tastes but that doesn't automatically mean it's necessarily worse .. conversely it's a safe bet that your personal preference is not always better either.
So because I prefer to shoot my other hadnguns over my glock I must not be a "serious" shooter, have "trigger issues", lack skills, have poor fundamentals, lack the true understanding of pistol marksmanship, am not at total zen with the universe???
To think that everyone MUST like a glock for whatever reason YOU think they should is just unrealistic. To think that a glock is the one and only handgun, perfect for every "serious" pistol shooter, regardless of hand size, physical stature etc well that's just ------- ------ (I'm trying to remain polite).
So because I am too tall to drive a tank...I am a poor tank driver?
Again...get over yourself...
If you are one of the 0.1% of the population whose hands are too small or fingers are too fat to work a glock, you are exempt.
If you have hands in the normal human range glocks are no problem.
I do not think anyone must LIKE glocks...I don't care at all what anyone likes, guns, music, food, hats, or dishwashers. I typically comment only on factual matters surrounding guns, which is exactly what i've done in this thread...comment on the utility of glocks, and how disliking them for aesthetic reasons etc is fine, but irrelevant in terms of assessing the gun itself.
As a machine that launches bullets, the glock is very effective.
If you have hands in the normal human range glocks are no problem.
I do not think anyone must LIKE glocks...I don't care at all what anyone likes, guns, music, food, hats, or dishwashers. I typically comment only on factual matters surrounding guns, which is exactly what i've done in this thread...comment on the utility of glocks, and how disliking them for aesthetic reasons etc is fine, but irrelevant in terms of assessing the gun itself.
As a machine that launches bullets, the glock is very effective.
So because I am too tall to drive a tank...I am a poor tank driver?
Again...get over yourself...
And, of course, if you are too tall to drive a tank, you have not driven a tank, in which case yes, you are probably poor at executing that particular skill.
Clobbersauras
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Misanthropist is not saying that the Glock is the right pistol for everyone.
He's simply saying that if you can't shoot a Glock well, then you simply can't shoot. It's a 100% true statement. Be honest with yourself and deal with it.
The same statement could be made for 1911's (that work) and other pistols with consistent trigger pulls.
One could make a case that DAO and DA/SA pistols are a little harder to shoot well, but that being said, if you apply the proper fundamentals, you should be able to shoot them well. It just takes more practice; more than some shooters have time for.
He's simply saying that if you can't shoot a Glock well, then you simply can't shoot. It's a 100% true statement. Be honest with yourself and deal with it.
The same statement could be made for 1911's (that work) and other pistols with consistent trigger pulls.
One could make a case that DAO and DA/SA pistols are a little harder to shoot well, but that being said, if you apply the proper fundamentals, you should be able to shoot them well. It just takes more practice; more than some shooters have time for.
Exactly...although if you can't shoot a 1911 well, not only can you not shoot, you probably shouldn't be allowed to try. The 1911 is the most easy to learn combat pistol ever built.
But the glock is pretty close. One trigger pull, short, fairly light, with a tactile reset.
I believe Todd Green, who as has been recently discussed generally likes TDA guns, called the G17 "one of the most shootable pistols" he has ever used. They are easy guns to shoot well.
If you have a specific requirement that obviates the glock, that's fine. If you think they're ugly, that's fine. Just don't buy in to the line about how "they don't work for some people". Unless you're a midget or Andre the Giant there is no reason a Glock won't PHYSICALLY do its job for you. If you're used to a different grip, it will feel different...no kidding. But that is effectively meaningless in terms of shooting performance.
But the glock is pretty close. One trigger pull, short, fairly light, with a tactile reset.
I believe Todd Green, who as has been recently discussed generally likes TDA guns, called the G17 "one of the most shootable pistols" he has ever used. They are easy guns to shoot well.
If you have a specific requirement that obviates the glock, that's fine. If you think they're ugly, that's fine. Just don't buy in to the line about how "they don't work for some people". Unless you're a midget or Andre the Giant there is no reason a Glock won't PHYSICALLY do its job for you. If you're used to a different grip, it will feel different...no kidding. But that is effectively meaningless in terms of shooting performance.
I shoot my HKs just fine...better then fine. But then why when I shoot a buddys magic Glock are my shots not as good as my HKs? Do I have to say some magic words? Wear a Glock hat or be 60lbs over weight for it to work?
According to CGN if I can't shoot that cheap plastic 2x4 then I can't shoot at all...so I guess its time for golf.
Keep an eye on the EE...
According to CGN if I can't shoot that cheap plastic 2x4 then I can't shoot at all...so I guess its time for golf.
Keep an eye on the EE...
You probably need to get used to the trigger...run a few thousand rounds through one and you will find you shoot it perfectly well.
I am sure that is true. Do anything 1000s of times and you will improve/learn to deal with it.
But WHY do that when I do not like the feel/trigger/looks ect?
If there are guns that I like and can pick up and already shoot well...why change?
The Glock is not a bad gun...but I will still never own one, if one was given to me for free I'd still sell it for ammo money for my others.
Clobbersauras
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Just a quick question: Do you shoot it true DA/SA? Do you practice any timed drills? Or do you usually shoot it just in SA mode?
I found with my HK that I would usually drop or push the second SA shot, especially during timed drills.
The only reasons I can think of would be if you needed to take advantage of particular attributes of the Glock, i.e. light or holster options, sight options, laser grips, or calibers which Glock offers, such as 10mm.
It is not the only useful gun, it is simply an effective, extremely reliable gun which is easy to learn to shoot well, and with excellent aftermarket support, making it a practical choice for many.
It is not the only useful gun, it is simply an effective, extremely reliable gun which is easy to learn to shoot well, and with excellent aftermarket support, making it a practical choice for many.
I shoot it in all ways...even do weak handed and all. I sometimes get a bit of a flyer but never anything to shed a tear about. I like the options SA/DA gives...and if you HATE DA...its pretty easy to shoot it in SA, especially when you have a safety.
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Love the Glock or hate the Glock, everyone is entitled to their OPINION. When it comes to FACT, opinions play no role. The FACTS are that Glocks are a PROVEN battlefield pistol trusted by military and law enforcement around the world, they experience far less failures than the majority of the guns on the market, they are extremely durable/tough (more than they even need to be really). The way a gun looks, plays no role in how it functions, so the fact that the Glock looks like a "2x4" has no bearing on how it performs, and it performs as close to flawless as one could expect from a mechanical device.
