whats the most useless or pointless cartridge ever

I'm going to say the .30 M1 Carbine. Why should I be allowed to use this as a deer cartridge and not a 220 swift is beyond me.... :confused:
 
Cordur said:
I'm going to say the .30 M1 Carbine. Why should I be allowed to use this as a deer cartridge and not a 220 swift is beyond me.... :confused:
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you're right

it's 22 hornet and 222 rem that make 218 and 221 useless or pointless because they're are much cheaper to shoot. and soon 223 may make 222 pointless (at least in the minds of the gun makers)
 
I'd say any short magnum that reduces the cartridge capacity of the rifle below that of the corresponding long magunum, which is also redundant to any unbelted predecessor cartridge with reasonable ballistics. (Ducking for the slit trench now). Gatehouse TSK TSK did you ADMIT on the WEB to HUNTING with a HANDGUN in CANADA? The world may end tomorrow from the shock of that disclosure!
 
I dunno...I'm still waiting for somebody to explain why the .325 WSM exists? I wouldn't place any bets on it surviving the long term & if I owned one, I'd definitely be stocking up on brass & bullets now.

I also re-read an article the other day about the .270 WSM vs. .270 Win...the .270 Win was beating the "magnum" caliber with some bullet weights.
 
I would say the 223 wssm. For the slight velocity over a 22-250 vs cost of reloading ( I have not seen any loaded 223 wssm here in our city),lack of selection in factory rifles and its looming death make it very unattractable.
If you are looking for something with the same velocity why not by the time tested, accurate 220 Swift :D

Cheers!!
 
*slight* velocity advantage? Hornady #6 lists a 4600fps load for the wssm. Thats 400 fps faster than the fastest 220 swift or 22-250 AI load listed
 
prosper said:
*slight* velocity advantage? Hornady #6 lists a 4600fps load for the wssm. Thats 400 fps faster than the fastest 220 swift or 22-250 AI load listed
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From most articles I have read claims are that the 223 wssm is slightly faster then the 22-250 by 200 fps on every bullet weight.

The sixth edition of the Hornady Handbook alos relates that "this cartridge is hard on barrels," with significant throat erosion visible after only 350 rounds had been fired.
 
sure, what else would you expect from a .22 that has the capacity of a 30-06? this would be similar to the 22 'catbird' (22-06 Improved) or the 22-284
 
prosper said:
sure, what else would you expect from a .22 that has the capacity of a 30-06? this would be similar to the 22 'catbird' (22-06 Improved) or the 22-284
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The WSSM case has just slightly more than the .260 Remington,
53.50 compared to 53.70 case capacity .
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MauserMike said:
Here in Southern Ontario, you can't hunt with any rifle more than .275 cal. Ya ya, I wish I live in North Bay too :)
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True enough, some regulations are stupid. So some rounds like .243 fill out a niche market. Can you use .22 calibres on deer? Say .22-250?
 
ya the .308 marlin has been done already and it was called the 307 win and that's now called obsolete
 
X-man said:
I dunno...I'm still waiting for somebody to explain why the .325 WSM exists? I wouldn't place any bets on it surviving the long term & if I owned one, I'd definitely be stocking up on brass & bullets now.

I also re-read an article the other day about the .270 WSM vs. .270 Win...the .270 Win was beating the "magnum" caliber with some bullet weights.
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325 wsm is actually quite popular, at least in BC. Its a step between 300 mags and 338s, which are fine useful hunting cartridges for stuff bigger and meaner than you find in Ontario

and no way a 270 winchester will match let alone beat a 270WSM, with comparable bullets and pressures. More capacity = more powder = more speed, aint no way around that one

Im not a big WSM fan but there isnt much wrong with them
 
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