What's the odds that in our lifetime we experience the launch of a new gauge caliber?

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Seeing that most of today's shotgun gauges are old, what's the odds that in our lifetime we experience the launch of a new gauge caliber?

-theres room for new gauges?
or
-existing gauges need perfecting?

I'll give you my 2cents, if the 28 gauge had mainstream slugs & buck, it would be a very popular gauge. My 2 cents says that before inventing a new gauge, develop the 28ga further at more affordable prices. Still, I think there is room for a new modern gauge, like the 17hmr did to rimfire. What is that magic new round you think?
 
I think it will come down to the 12&20 gauge and the .410, remaining, with nothing else new. The 10 had a surge but seems to be dying, again. And what's with the 16 and 28?
 
vpsalin said:
Seeing that most of today's shotgun gauges are old, what's the odds that in our lifetime we experience the launch of a new gauge caliber?

-theres room for new gauges?
or
-existing gauges need perfecting?

I'll give you my 2cents, if the 28 gauge had mainstream slugs & buck, it would be a very popular gauge. My 2 cents says that before inventing a new gauge, develop the 28ga further at more affordable prices. Still, I think there is room for a new modern gauge, like the 17hmr did to rimfire. What is that magic new round you think?
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Why do we need another gauge. A 16 and a 28 have took care of 85% of my needs for over 40 years and will until I die. I do use the 10 just for geese. The 28 is a lot more popular today than it was 20 years ago.
 
I've shot .410, 28, 20, 16, 12 & 10 (and even a smooth bore .22 with birdshot). I've never felt the need for anything other than a 12 or .410 as far as shotguns go.
 
Jwirecom109 said:
People like to have things that others don't lol.
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True I guess. But unless they pull John Browning out of his grave I cannot see any major design changes for firearms or new shotgun gauges. His designs are over 85 years old and still hold to this day, how can you improve perfection. That being said if there is a new shotgun gauge I will buy it

From his bio


No design of Browning's had ever proved to be a failure. He invented more successful firearms than any other American: today, there are over thirty million modern weapons which are based on his designs. One measure of Browning's phenomenal success is the fact that no fundamental changes have appeared in thefirearms industry since his death in 1926.
 
I can see one or two things happening in this regard.

Larger calibers in hunting rifles has been an ongoing development. There might be a change upwards in shotgun gauge. Not likely, but still a possibility.

Secondly, and this is more likely, there will be new developments in 12 gauge slug rounds, and in shot loads.
 
Probably no new gauges but a lot of playing around with the gauges now available.The 12 gauge 3 1/2 inch is as excample of this.
 
12, 20, and 410

The rest are boutique calibres, just like the myriad of rifle chamberings that usually amount to nothing more than the old stand-bys (30-06, 30-30, 308, 7x57, etc.)
 
I know a lot of people talk about making a mainstream 3" chambered 16 Gauge but I for one don't really see a point. For upland (and on a scaled frame), I don't think you would need anything more than 2 3/4" and it's a joy to carry. I've been playing with the 16 for waterfowl this year and I've dropped everything from Green Wing Teal to Canadas (out to 25 yards for the geese).

Of course, if I was exclusively going out after geese I would probably pick my 12 or a 10. However, from what I've seen this year as an "all around" gauge, the 16's been shining for me.

I also fully expect to be called a 16 Gauge "fanboy", and I'm alright with that ;)

Cory
 
I can't see going bigger as many states outlawed the 8bore for waterfowling. I miss my sub gauges immensely and I'm in the process of re buying them. A 12ga can do everything but its the fun of the others. I use a 10 for geese and divers a 12 for everything and I used to use 28 and 410 for bunnies and squirrels. Did a lot of target shooting with the 20 as well. I think the 24 and the 36 ga is about done. I also believe there is not enough money to be made by bringing out a new gauge
 
No, I do not see another gauge being introduced.

Gauge really is not an issue. The coverage is fairly complete, especially when the uncommon gauges are included.

We're pretty much limited to the 10ga for hunting, so larger is not really a direction to go. The .22, 6mm, 9mm and .410 cover the small end. In the middle there is the 16, 20, 28 and 32 gauges.

Payload can be increased by lengthening a shell or going to a larger gauge.

Velocity may be an area with development. The downside is lead shot, it deforms easily. Faster velocity will probably require faster acceleration which leads to more deformed pellets. Within a shell, there is only so much room for a wad design that that protects from acceleration.

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What I can see happening is a new direction. Longer shells with lighter payloads and more room for the wad to work. The downside is getting the public to buy it. The demand is for higher velocity and larger payloads. Convincing the public will be difficult and may be futile. More buyers seem to want cheaper instead of better ammo.
 
Lodi said:
No, I do not see another gauge being introduced.

Gauge really is not an issue. The coverage is fairly complete, especially when the uncommon gauges are included.

We're pretty much limited to the 10ga for hunting, so larger is not really a direction to go. The .22, 6mm, 9mm and .410 cover the small end. In the middle there is the 16, 20, 28 and 32 gauges.

Payload can be increased by lengthening a shell or going to a larger gauge.

Velocity may be an area with development. The downside is lead shot, it deforms easily. Faster velocity will probably require faster acceleration which leads to more deformed pellets. Within a shell, there is only so much room for a wad design that that protects from acceleration.

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What I can see happening is a new direction. Longer shells with lighter payloads and more room for the wad to work. The downside is getting the public to buy it. The demand is for higher velocity and larger payloads. Convincing the public will be difficult and may be futile. More buyers seem to want cheaper instead of better ammo.
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this about sums it up
 
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