Whats the point of 10/22 auto bolt release??
- Thread starter Dweano
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Maybe we have different ideas about cleaning, I take the gun apart to clean it, but I see your point. Unfortunately, the factory hold open works just fine for e-port/mag well cleaning access, same goes for stoppages. As for consistency, the auto release isn't helping at all as the bolt does NOT lock back on the last round. Additionally, if you're working the action with your dominant/fire control hand you're not building muscle memory with anything, not to mention its awkward and requires the hand shuffle to get the rifle back into action.
As for me, I use the factory hold open on the rare occasion I get a stoppage that can't be cleared by simply cycling the action. Aside from that the rifle is in a ready state.
If the bolt does not lock back on the last shot by itself, and you must manually lock it to the rear, then what's the point of the auto release? If you want to safe steps then stop locking the bolt back and simply insert a fresh magazine and cycle the action.
So you're building muscle memory for what, there is no last round hold open? If you're default action is to rack the slide or work the charge handle then not locking the bolt back achieves the same result. In fact, not relying on a bolt to lock to the rear is better method of operation. Relying on a last round hold open and using the bolt/slide catch is a flawed method. Regardless of which method you use, the auto release mod does not aid in learning muscle memory for either.
Maga capacity has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. They're called stoppages or failures, no sticky sweet substance has ever secreted from a firearm. The auto release makes nothing easier, as you still have to manually operate the hold open to lock the bolt back, so what's the difficulty in operating the tab to release the bolt? If you have time to lock the bolt back, you're not involved in a time critical shooting event, and any mod that "eliminates" a step is not gonna make a difference.
TDC
I totally strip down the action from time to time, but I do clean the barrel, and the action through the mag well and the ejection port after every shooting session.
And I think when you say "Unfortunately, the factory . . . goes for stoppages" you are misunderstanding my issue. The point is I do use the hold open feature regularly, and the little tab that locks it is ok at locking the bolt back because you can pretty much press on any part of that flat tiny tab. But I find pressing on the tab just right, at the front edge to unlock it, difficult, particularly while supporting the weight of the rifle with the same hand as the one using the tiny tab on only the front edge, while racking the bolt back to release it. Without having the press the little tab at the front edge, my front hand remains supporting the action, I release my trigger hand, rack the bolt to release, and place my hand back into shooting position. As opposed to the previously mentioned, press on front edge of tab while holding rifle with same hand while also racking the bolt back.
Lol you said the auto bolt makes nothing eaiser however then you said that you have to hold the tab when pulling on the bolt.
Doing the mod means you dont have to do this step. You just proved my point and everyones elses. That's why we do the mod.
Thanks!
Also with the stock mags there are fewer issues, with the larger mags, issues happen. So mag size does play into this since jams happen more frequently with larger mags.
Doing the mod means you dont have to do this step. You just proved my point and everyones elses. That's why we do the mod.
Thanks!
Also with the stock mags there are fewer issues, with the larger mags, issues happen. So mag size does play into this since jams happen more frequently with larger mags.
You asked all these questions… But you said two hours later you already did the mod?
I did it while my trigger group was apart...because it was easy, fast, and free. Then I felt cool. Then I wondered...what did I actually gain? Haha
Ya...
I've used mine for the Speed Steel matches a couple of times. Between stages the rifles need to be carried open and empty. So for 5 times during the match I get to load a mag at the line then reach around and up a little and just flick the bolt handle to let the bolt release without a lot of two handed fumbling. That made it worth while in my book.
From what you said it sounds like you primarily plink in the woods. In that case it's maybe not as big a deal. Although I'm still a fan of seeing all guns open and empty with bolts back to give myself and others around me that little extra warm and fuzzy feeling.
From what you said it sounds like you primarily plink in the woods. In that case it's maybe not as big a deal. Although I'm still a fan of seeing all guns open and empty with bolts back to give myself and others around me that little extra warm and fuzzy feeling.
If you're referring to my post you need to re-read it and try again, but I will break it down for you. To lock the bolt to the rear you need to..... Hold the bolt back, then activate the hold open. To release the bolt, you need to hold the bolt back, then activate the hold open. The difference with the "mod" is that you no longer need to activate the hold open when RELEASING the bolt. That's fine and dandy, but you still had to operate the hold open when locking the bolt to the rear. Tell me, just what are you doing where you either need to, or want to lock the bolt to the rear, but somehow the speed advantage(minimal at best) of simply working the charge handle is needed? If speed is the name of the game, then forget locking the bolt back and go right to reloading.
TDC
I did this mod to one of my 10/22's. I want it back to stock now. So if anyone wants to do it to their rifle, how bout a trade? My modified piece for your stock piece. Or if anyone has an extra stock one kicking around, what to sell it? I'm located in northern BC if anyones close by. Thanks, Toni.
