What's the poop with CZ rifles???

My 452 shoots match 22lr ammo at 100 yards as well as most factory centerfires. I get the odd flier, but I chalk that up to factory loaded 22lr more than my rifle. And by flier I mean I consistently shoot .5 at 100, but the odd group of 5 I have one fly out making it more like 1" or a bit less. Still makes a great silhouette rifle and a deadly accurate gopher gun.

I can shoot SKS brass at 100 yards all day with my 452. It groups very well even out to 200. At 300 things get pretty random.

Again, the fit and finish is amazing. The blueing and wood work is great. I don't like the poly mag, but it hasn't failed me yet.
 
TimC said:
I'm quite a CZ fan, the price here in the UK has rocketed sadly putting them in the bracket of Tikkas, why should I pay 7-800 pounds sterling for a sporting rifle? Well it certainly will last and the rimfires are very good, almost the best on the market but I have seen some poor machining and stock work recently, the QC isnt always as good as you pay for and a few dealers have been stroppy about warranty. I suspect the rush to keep up with orders is pushing quality down slightly.
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good chance tim...my standard with an rws 3x9x44 30 mm tube looks and feels like a real gun and it has bugbuster qualities:cool:

i put bashing bambi on my favourites,gotta check it out later:)
 
I've been pondering my next rimfire purchase for some time as well. I've used several CZ rimfires over the last 6 years and they really can't be faulted.
My only gripes with the CZ:
-high bolt throw
-they don't cycle as smooth as the Ruger 77/22 or the Anschutz 1416
-fit and finish is better than Marlin, Savage, etc...but still behind Anschutz, IMHO.
Of course a CZ452 is only half the price of either the above mentioned rimfires, all things being fair. Furthermore a couple test reviews place the accuracy of the CZ to be very near to the Anschutz 1416! No better accuracy can be had for the price. Additionally, there are reasonably priced trigger kits available, should the trigger not be to your liking.

I was so impressed with the Ruger 77/22 action I was willing to invest the time and $$$ to accurize it. It then came to my attention it did not have a threaded barrel and that it is only secured with set screws )-: This rimfire it completely ruled out for me now.

Another point to consider is what will you use the most: a rimfire or a hunting rifle. Me and everyone I know puts more rounds through their rimfires than their centerfires, so really - Why wouldn't you spend more money on the gun you shoot most often?

For myself it will come down to the Anschutz 1416 ($1080), or the CZ 452 ($470).
After carefully reviewing its competitors, testing several myself, and all the individuals and dealer comments, I can't see a better choice in that price range.

Hope this was helpful,

GM
 
I love my CZs. After owning a few cheaper rifles such as the 10/22 and Savages (which really aren't so cheap any more) I bought my first CZ. Now I own 3 CZs and have only kept my 10/22 for plinking mostly because it is an older model with no plastic.

There's more to a rifle than accuracy, which the CZ has in spades. When you hold a CZ you can immediately tell it is a quality firearm. It's real pretty to look at, functions flawlessly every time, and balances perfectly.

As to the cost. Buy a $500 452 and add a $15 trigger kit and the gun is perfect. I'm pretty sure you could spend similar amounts on a lesser rimfire and still not have a firearm near as nice as the CZ. Besides, $500 spent on a gun that will shoot many thousands of rounds is a bargain. How many of us spend much more on a big game rifle that may only see several dozen shots?
 
I have a left hand 452 in 17 HMR and it is a very nice little lite to carry rimfire not to mention it puts the bullet right were you want it.
 
MagnumPeanut said:
My 452 shoots match 22lr ammo at 100 yards as well as most factory centerfires. I get the odd flier, but I chalk that up to factory loaded 22lr more than my rifle. And by flier I mean I consistently shoot .5 at 100, but the odd group of 5 I have one fly out making it more like 1" or a bit less. Still makes a great silhouette rifle and a deadly accurate gopher gun.

I can shoot SKS brass at 100 yards all day with my 452. It groups very well even out to 200. At 300 things get pretty random.

Again, the fit and finish is amazing. The blueing and wood work is great. I don't like the poly mag, but it hasn't failed me yet.
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Are we talking 5 or 10 shot groups? Since most best quality match rifles will not consistently shoot .5" for 10 shots at 100 regardless of ammo used, I call BS on this one unless you are talking 3 or 5 shot groups, which are not truly indicative of a rimfire's potential. Regards, Eagleye.
 
Eagleye said:
Are we talking 5 or 10 shot groups? Since most best quality match rifles will not consistently shoot .5" for 10 shots at 100 regardless of ammo used, I call BS on this one unless you are talking 3 or 5 shot groups, which are not truly indicative of a rimfire's potential. Regards, Eagleye.
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By the wording I believe he's talking 5 shot groups. Unbelievably good by my experience, even with my best centrefire, but then again I dont' shoot match grade ammo.
 
Eagleye said:
Are we talking 5 or 10 shot groups? Since most best quality match rifles will not consistently shoot .5" for 10 shots at 100 regardless of ammo used, I call BS on this one unless you are talking 3 or 5 shot groups, which are not truly indicative of a rimfire's potential. Regards, Eagleye.
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Wow, Eagleye. I specifically said 5 shot groups.

As far as your 10 shot theory. Centerfires are usually scored on a 5 shot group so I have always done the same with my 22lr. Regardless, re-read my initial post and quit complaining.

I realize I used the word consistently and flier within the same sentence, so I see the confusion. But calm down bro.

Match ammo makes a big diff Grizzley. I have tried Win SuperX, Win Supreme, Win PP, CCI Segmented Hollow Point, Remington yellow jackets, Lapua, Eley Match and Eley Standard.

Most of them I was lucky to do 2 inch groups. Remington and CCI shot horribly. Win Supreme was not too bad but I got too many fliers. Win PP was OK at 1.5 or more. Lapua was sub 1". Eley made all the difference. I went from good to amazing. I just had to find the right ammo.
 
Not complaining, nor would I want to be misinterpreted. I have two CZ 452's, one in 22LR and one in 17 HMR. They are very nice, quite accurate rifles, but I would never take mine to a competition, unless it was a casual silhouette shoot. For serious silhouette, I use one of my 541 Remingtons. The real test would be an IR 50/50 target. This immediately sorts out the real shooters from the posers. As for groups, I shoot 22 Benchrest occasionally, and 5 shot groups are unheard of there. Even an informal shoot at 100 will be 10 shots for group, 10 for score. Centerfire BR is 10 shots per target as well. I have shot 5 shot groups at 200 that are under 1 inch, but not with my CZ 452. One thing that is certain, as you mentioned...the high quality match ammo your rifle likes makes a huge difference, and "plinker" ammo does not cut it!! Regards, Eagleye.
 
CZ452 for a $500 rimfire are a good buy, with a little trigger work, action screw torque and barrel clearance issues addressed they are a real contender.

Benchrest material ? I'd so not, but for a casual target shooter and hunting rifle combo their pretty hard to beat at the price.

I have had more than one CZ that would shoot 5 shot groups .5 and under consistently but never one out of the box that would shot like that. I had a CZ 17hmr varmint that would shoot a whole box (50 rounds) under .5 at 50 yds with breaks between each 5 shot sequence for a cool down

I will say that they are very particular to ammo selection and some times it does take a while to find the right combo. Also I'm not a competition shooter so I dont usually shot 10 shot groups. I'd imagine they wouldn't maintain their consistency for 10 shots.
 
I suspect that they wouldnt loose their consistency over 10 shots as opposed to 5. the old .22 rimfire tin hat targets were 5 shots, one on each target on the card of 5 timed. The move to decimal came with a move to a card of 10 targets all singly shot. This meant you had to concentrate over all 10 shots and sighters. yes this was the 25 yard version but at the level oof county competitions where regular cards of 99 are shot and only make the top 30 shots its the consistency of the person as mucch as the rifle and ammo. I shot well at that level using old BSA and Early mod 54 Anschutz with little difference between the scores as the ammo was known to work in each rifle, CCI green tag in the BSA and Lapua Dominator in the Anschutz.
The variables at that level are personal, moving slightly between shots to create less strain for each target and breathing.
I didnt get to the point where leather jackets was necessary, I only did it for fun and for me that meant consistently breaking 95 with the BSA.
 
Eagleye said:
Not complaining, nor would I want to be misinterpreted. I have two CZ 452's, one in 22LR and one in 17 HMR. They are very nice, quite accurate rifles, but I would never take mine to a competition, unless it was a casual silhouette shoot. For serious silhouette, I use one of my 541 Remingtons. The real test would be an IR 50/50 target. This immediately sorts out the real shooters from the posers. As for groups, I shoot 22 Benchrest occasionally, and 5 shot groups are unheard of there. Even an informal shoot at 100 will be 10 shots for group, 10 for score. Centerfire BR is 10 shots per target as well. I have shot 5 shot groups at 200 that are under 1 inch, but not with my CZ 452. One thing that is certain, as you mentioned...the high quality match ammo your rifle likes makes a huge difference, and "plinker" ammo does not cut it!! Regards, Eagleye.
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Eagle

I saw some results posted some where in the uSA where there was a rimfire shoot and the top 6 guys were all shooting 452's. FS
 
Epoxy7 said:
I have a recently purchased CZ 452 varmint with the Eric Brooks trigger kit. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but here are the positives on initial inspection:

-Very nice wood on mine with tiger stripes
-The Brooks trigger is very good
-The quality of fit/finish is very good
-Extra touches such as a rubber recoil pad rather than plastic, etc are definitely noticed
-The varmint stock and heavier barrel are well balanced.
-Decent mag system.
-Winchester style safety is a nice touch

Overall it is a very nice rifle. It looks right at home amongst other mid to high end rifles.
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I have the exact same setup scoped with a Bushnell Elite 4200 - 6-24X40. You will not be disappointed!

Regards,

Chizzy
 
Fassteel said:
Palidin

If you would like a european 22 rifle that has very similar manufacturing qualities to the CZ, have a look at the Rem model 5. I have one in 22 mag and it is a great shooter. These rifles are discontinued and are on sale at some vendors, likely in the $350.00 range. FS
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I come from Europe and guess what? Europeans appreciate American....
Well, most of them. Most of the ones I know.
 
3dmark said:
CZ452 for a $500 rimfire are a good buy, with a little trigger work, action screw torque and barrel clearance issues addressed they are a real contender.

Benchrest material ? I'd so not, but for a casual target shooter and hunting rifle combo their pretty hard to beat at the price.
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I strongly disagree. There are cheaper (let's call them S or M) 22lr casual target and hunting combo rifles.
I own one. I hunt quite successfully with it. I can get sub moa groups when I'm not bored. And it's been only $260 +tax.
 
What's the difference between a CZ and a Brno ? I have a #3 and #4 Brno both Nice rifles. Wood is nothing special, But the Steel is Very Nice. How about some Pictures. :needPics:
 
got to go said:
What's the difference between a CZ and a Brno ? I have a #3 and #4 Brno both Nice rifles. Wood is nothing special, But the Steel is Very Nice. How about some Pictures. :needPics:
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Nothing really, CZ is the name the factory took after partition with the Slovaks, BRNO is the town where the plant is an its the same plant, some models in the transition period were marked BRNO one day and the next batch CZ allegedly. My local plod licensing couldnt cope with the change and insisted on recording all new CZ rifles as BRNO's. Tossers!
 
I don't understand why people pay $1000 for a rifle they shoot once a year and then balk at $200 for a rifle they use all the time!

A quality rimfire is pure joy.
 
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