BigUglyMan
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Not sure why, but I just can't get excited about an M96. Not when the M98 exists. Maybe it's a case of the "Latest and Greatest".
Whats the story on the 9.3X62 in Canada?
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The 9.3 x 57 in 96 flavour had a badly cracked stock, usual place, behind the tang so I did not pay very much for it. The bore is spotless. However if I bought a 9.3x62 it would be in a 98 action. I have fired the 9.3 x 64 and it was brutal to shoot, really heavy recoil.
As an aside, you might read that you can expand 30-06 brass to make the 9.3 x62. I believed that and tried it and the 06 cases were swollen ahead of the web. The 9.3x62 has a greater diameter at the base That is why Dave Scovill the writer necked the 30-06 to 9.3 and called it the 366 Scovill.
The 9.3 x 64 has an even bigger base with no belt.
As an aside, you might read that you can expand 30-06 brass to make the 9.3 x62. I believed that and tried it and the 06 cases were swollen ahead of the web. The 9.3x62 has a greater diameter at the base That is why Dave Scovill the writer necked the 30-06 to 9.3 and called it the 366 Scovill.
The 9.3 x 64 has an even bigger base with no belt.
i also own a CZ550 FS and am lovin it. recoil is no problem for me and power is awsome. for me more comfortable to shoot than my ol' mosin nagat (steel butt plate)
using the awsome iron sights but thinking of getting an optic. i was thinking probably something in the 1.5-4 magnification, not really planning to be shooting much past 200m
ammo isnt cheap but most shops can order it here in ontario. hoping to start reloading soon...
using the awsome iron sights but thinking of getting an optic. i was thinking probably something in the 1.5-4 magnification, not really planning to be shooting much past 200m
ammo isnt cheap but most shops can order it here in ontario. hoping to start reloading soon...
BigUglyMan
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I've done it, Why Not has done it and Boomer has 5gallons of reformed brass to suggest that it works just fine.
Got a very nice Sauer 200 from a fellow CGN on EE. Very happy with it, only used the exellent irin sights so far with 286 Hornady reloads. Very comfortable to shoot and slick action!. First 4 shots at 25 yards in a ragged hole and the next 4 at 100 yards in 2.5 inch. I think it is a keeper. Would like to experiment with 300/325 grain bullets.
I was always going to try it , but I found a really good buy on new Lapua brass, so no need to and Lapua brass is awesome stuff.
BigUglyMan
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I run Lapua brass as well but Ted offered me the opportunity to try out his forming dies and I had to give it a shot. Then I reformed all my Garand brass. Facepalm.
Good evening, Folks. Been travelling, and had this thread brought to my attention.
Got my first 9.3X62 more than thirty years ago. Have killed literally tons of big game with it, most using the 286 gr Norma Dual Core, and Round Nose. I have a small glass jar with several dozen recovered bullets in it. Here are four, all one shot kills, and taken from hits from less than 20 yd, to over 250.
The 270 gr Speer is a very good bullet, too. This big chocolate bear was taken with a single 270 Speer, complete pass through, no recovered bullet.
This is the Speer bullet that made a 9.3 believer out of c-fbmi, when he decked a big old bull with my pre-war Model 70 Winchester, rebored to 9.3X62 by Les Bauska.
This is the big grizzly that several of the guys posted about above.
A single 270 gr Matrix, broke the near shoulder, chopped two vertebrae, and lodged in the off side.
Needless to say, he never got back up.
Nice to have my hunting partner of 46 years along on the trip, at -12C.
Today, one of my 9.3s is always along on a hunt, most often loaded with the Matrix bullets. They shoot plenty flat enough at 2500+ to make dead-on-hold hits to 250 yds, and get there with power to spare!
Have formed scores of 30-06 brass to 9.3X63 without a whimper. Some of the cases were done so long ago, I have lost track of how many times they have been reloaded. Here' what properly formed '06 cases look like before firing.
And after
This is a typical target shot at 100 yd while fireforming. Two shots, scope adjusted, then two more shots.
No need to waste ammo fireforming, and I have actually hunted with fireforming loads on a number of occasions.
The 9.3 is alive and well in Canada!
Ted
Got my first 9.3X62 more than thirty years ago. Have killed literally tons of big game with it, most using the 286 gr Norma Dual Core, and Round Nose. I have a small glass jar with several dozen recovered bullets in it. Here are four, all one shot kills, and taken from hits from less than 20 yd, to over 250.
The 270 gr Speer is a very good bullet, too. This big chocolate bear was taken with a single 270 Speer, complete pass through, no recovered bullet.
This is the Speer bullet that made a 9.3 believer out of c-fbmi, when he decked a big old bull with my pre-war Model 70 Winchester, rebored to 9.3X62 by Les Bauska.
This is the big grizzly that several of the guys posted about above.
A single 270 gr Matrix, broke the near shoulder, chopped two vertebrae, and lodged in the off side.
Needless to say, he never got back up.
Nice to have my hunting partner of 46 years along on the trip, at -12C.
Today, one of my 9.3s is always along on a hunt, most often loaded with the Matrix bullets. They shoot plenty flat enough at 2500+ to make dead-on-hold hits to 250 yds, and get there with power to spare!
Have formed scores of 30-06 brass to 9.3X63 without a whimper. Some of the cases were done so long ago, I have lost track of how many times they have been reloaded. Here' what properly formed '06 cases look like before firing.
And after
This is a typical target shot at 100 yd while fireforming. Two shots, scope adjusted, then two more shots.
No need to waste ammo fireforming, and I have actually hunted with fireforming loads on a number of occasions.
The 9.3 is alive and well in Canada!
Ted
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gunrunner8
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Well, I know it's going to cost me but I will say it anyway. IMHO 9,3x62 do suck. This is not to bad cartridge but I like light rifles to carry no more than 7,5lbs ready to shoot. I had many 35 Whelens before the next one comming soon enough but 2500+fps with 250gr bullet was to much of a good thing (I am 60 years old afterall). I downloaded old Barnes 225 X bullets to 2400-2500fps for less recoil and faster target recovery for great hunting success. BC & SD for 9,3mm bullet at 250 or less would be ridiculous, anything heavier than 250gr at full power in light rifles is to much hurt on the other end of it, to much power for average game, trajectory of a mortar and target recovery of a 16" Bertha. You have choice: nice, light, practical and handy 358W or 35Whelen, or heavy (9lbs+), punishing short range hands full cannon. that's my personal 2c worth....GR8.
BigUglyMan
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I was starting to get worried. Almost 5 pages before the godfather of the 9.3x62 showed up. Worrisome to say the least!
GR8....in 6 pages of this thread you are the only one that has had negative things to say about the 9.3x62, and you're certainly welcome to your opinions. However, I have to disagree with your terminology that the x62 "sucks". It does have a fair amount of recoil, certainly in a light rifle, so for you it isn't an ideal cartridge. There are lots of other chamberings that will suit your purpose and recoil tolerance. For those of us who hunt moose, elk and large bears, the 9.3x62 is one of the best there is. BC and SD of most 250gr. bullets is adequate, even the Norma 232gr. shoots very accurately in most rifles. You can load it down to 9.3x57 power levels if you wish and recoil becomes less of an issue. Not much more I can say but I just can't agree that this fine cartridge "sucks". And that's my personal 2c worth. Cheers.....
BigUglyMan
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My 9.3 weights 7lb 11oz all up (rifle, ammo, and sling). Just too darned heavy, I guess.
Maybe you meant "It sucks the awesome".
Everybody's recoil tolerance is different, but when I first tried out my Husky 9.3 at almost exactly 7 1/2 lbs., I was surprised at how pleasant it actually was to shoot, especially after all the nonsense I'd read about heavy recoil. I could pick a 12 gauge shotgun out of my safe at random, and any one of them would be more abusive than a 9.3, one of them a LOT more abusive.
The S.D. of a 250 gr. .366" bullet is .267, about the same as a 210 gr. .338 bullet, or a 150 gr. 7mm bullet. The S.D. of your 225 gr. 358" bullet is only .251.
2600 fps is not unreasonable with the 250 grainer, and gives you about 9" of drop at 300 yds. with a 200 yd zero. Your .35 Whelen, with a 225 gr bullet and 2500 fps will have about 10.5" of drop with the same 200 yd. zero. It's also within 100 fps of a 180/.30-06, a 250/.338 or a 270/.375. Pretty good company.
I was getting 2450 with the traditional 286 gr. bullet, which puts me within 15 grs. of lead and 100 fps of a factory .375 H&H, all in a 7 1/2 lb rifle. Recoil was getting a bit sharp at that speed, but was still quite manageable.
Unfortunately my 7 1/2 lb rifle is going to gain some weight. I've had to replace the original beech stock which was developing some nasty splits with a heavy (but gorgeous) piece of walnut. That, plus the addition of a scope is going to put me up around 9 lbs. I fear.
If you don't like the push from the 9.3, maybe you should give a .338-06 a try.
If you don't like the push from the 9.3, maybe you should give a .338-06 a try.[/QUOTE]
No kidding ! My 338-06 is nearly a pound heavier than my 9.3 and recoil is downright nasty compared to the latter and this with much lighter bullets...
No kidding ! My 338-06 is nearly a pound heavier than my 9.3 and recoil is downright nasty compared to the latter and this with much lighter bullets...
gunrunner8
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Why I am negative? You will agree that 9,3mmx62 is specialized cartridge. I appreciate more than anyone non magnum cartridges (now I have none) for extra magazine capacity and faster target recovery among other things for instance and even more power is available from good old 30-06 case like 375 Whelen AI but here in Canada where are the charging cape buffalo, rogue elephants, nasty rino or even hippo? All we have here are average 500lbs grizly bear that can be killed up close and personal with 358Win and 250gr Hornady RN with ease. Moose even large one can be killed with one shot from 7-57 and 150gr Rem CL at 300m+, I know I've done it. This all talk about 9,3x62 on elk and such reminds me of the desire to be "better than my neighbour Jones" and an ego trip, no offence to anyone. Mind you 20 years ago I had different perspective than today.
