What's the worst groups you've gotten?
- Thread starter Ducimus
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Best worst group?
That depends.
I got an Arisaka in 6.5mm, tried it out with some Norma factory stuff I picked up at a gun show. REALLY OLD Norma. The rifle put 5 under a nickel at 145 yards, iron sights, and I had a witness there at the time.
Well! The rifle can SHOOT!
Time, obviously, to see what it will do with handloads.
So I got the dies, laid out serious money for some Swedish match bullets, loaded ever-so-carefully and went out to the range.
At 200 yards, off the sandbags, I got a 10-yard-vertical by 20-yard-horizontal group.... with a couple of flyers.
The hard-jacketed Swedish match bullets were exploding about 20 feet in front of the muzzle. Seems that that old Metford rifling in the Arisaka REALLY distorts the bullets (they come out almost square) and the hard jackets can't take it, even though they shoot brilliantly in my Swede Mausers.
Went to the El Cheapo Remington 140, which has a fairly soft jacket and groups shrank a whole BIG lot! Right now, the old thing is about 1 MOA, which is where it should be.
Lesson learned.
That depends.
I got an Arisaka in 6.5mm, tried it out with some Norma factory stuff I picked up at a gun show. REALLY OLD Norma. The rifle put 5 under a nickel at 145 yards, iron sights, and I had a witness there at the time.
Well! The rifle can SHOOT!
Time, obviously, to see what it will do with handloads.
So I got the dies, laid out serious money for some Swedish match bullets, loaded ever-so-carefully and went out to the range.
At 200 yards, off the sandbags, I got a 10-yard-vertical by 20-yard-horizontal group.... with a couple of flyers.
The hard-jacketed Swedish match bullets were exploding about 20 feet in front of the muzzle. Seems that that old Metford rifling in the Arisaka REALLY distorts the bullets (they come out almost square) and the hard jackets can't take it, even though they shoot brilliantly in my Swede Mausers.
Went to the El Cheapo Remington 140, which has a fairly soft jacket and groups shrank a whole BIG lot! Right now, the old thing is about 1 MOA, which is where it should be.
Lesson learned.
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Worst would be 115 grain SBT's out of a 250 Savage 99R with the old twist barrel.
Flying sideways before they traveled 20 yards.
A close second would have been 45 grain bullets handloaded for a Model 43 Winchester 22 Hornet using IMR 4227.
I havent tried loading for a .22 Hornet since and thats 20 plus years ago.
Flying sideways before they traveled 20 yards.
A close second would have been 45 grain bullets handloaded for a Model 43 Winchester 22 Hornet using IMR 4227.
I havent tried loading for a .22 Hornet since and thats 20 plus years ago.
OK Ducimus here you go, I will share with you what I have learned. I also have a Remington SPS Varmint with 9-1/8 twist barrel and tried all the bullets you haved and finnally stumbeled onto this recipe that defies all logic as to what a barrel is "supposed " to like based on twist rate or even bullet seating depth and being close to the rifling.
I found this to be the best so far and can get 1" or less at 200yds even on a windy day. Up until this point I was lucky to get that at 100yds with 85 and 87's and forget anything heavy, 105 A-Maxes were 3" at 100yds. Likes em light I guess, but I am glad because I prefer that so lucky for me.
I found this to be the best so far and can get 1" or less at 200yds even on a windy day. Up until this point I was lucky to get that at 100yds with 85 and 87's and forget anything heavy, 105 A-Maxes were 3" at 100yds. Likes em light I guess, but I am glad because I prefer that so lucky for me.
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P-14 with a shot out barrel - - 8-12" at 100.
3 shots.
But I love it just like a delinquent child.
3 shots.
But I love it just like a delinquent child.
