What's this 1911 worth?

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Thought I would get some input here before I lay out the money. Just got back from holidays, and has a guy offer me this 1911 in 45. He was asking $800 and I didn't know if it was worth it? It's in good shape but I don't know.
Should I get it?
I was more interested in the C1 SMG in the case, but that one wasn't for sale.

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How are the internals?

For it just saying Canada on it, I'd pay 800, but it says Quebec on it also, so I'd say 600.
 
considering it's one of the most rare birds -even more than a singer or a union , you draw a conclusion
just for fun, google m1911+north american arms+quebec, and see for yourself
 
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North American Arms, like this one, was made in the Ross Rifle Company facility. And apparently less than 100 were made. This one being serial number 78, or at least their version of a serial number, as there were no numbers stamped on the frame.

Here is where is was made, or at least it's the grass park area where the Ross factory was. It's now the water reservoir under the grass at the Plains of Abraham.
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And here is the R22R museum at the Citadel where this little piece of history was displayed. The cannon points at the museum building.
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Me and the family did 2 weeks in the area of Montreal, Quebec City, Kingston, and Ottawa. First time for me being there since '68.

We had a great time in the province of Quebec. Tres beautiful! The people were great, and we loved spending a few days in the east township area. A little more expensive than here, but worth the trip. Very clean. I will be going back to next year's Nationals. Hats off to the folks from Quebec as their pride in community was evident everywhere!

Ontario is a whole different story. Some very nice country, but unfortunately our experience with the locals for a week didn't leave that good of an impression. And even more expensive. Probably won't bother going back for another 40 years if I make it to 90.

We did the normal tourist stuff, Citadel, Ft Henry, Upper Canada Village, the locks/St Lawrence area, Ottawa museums, etc. I was a little underwhelmed with the War Museum. I am hoping that because it is still new, they are 'growing'. It appeared to me that there was a lot of wasted space in the galleries, and were trying for more of a (I don't know of a proper descriptive word), and less of a historical/tutorial theme. I, of course, am more interested in the technical aspect of museums, ie. variants and uses of material, weapons in particular, but I think they had a lot of space that could have displayed a lot more. The artillery/tank area in contrast was very crowded.
To my dismay, in the artillery area in a back wall, they had a small display of 4 VCs..... tucked away that was maybe 5 feet by 4 feet big. Kind of lame. Again I am hoping this was a temporary measure waiting for a proper area to promote those collections and stories of the men who won them.

My wife didn't mind me going to 7 or 8 surplus stores. Sadly, not much real surplus being offered any more.
 
Oh ya, BTW, even if I could have got this 1911 with another zero added to the price, I would have jumped on it.

Sorry for the goofing around guys.:redface:
 
Here was something I noticed a little later after taking the pic. There is something a little 'off' in this pic, other than the Ross not having a bolt, and 2 Ross bayonets, rather than at least one for the #1.
A little quiz for ya'll.
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In the top picture the trench isn't filled with mud up to knee level? Or the Enfield leather sling is not originally issued? I dunno...
 
So there is one of the Ross contract... the name fooled me; I always thought they were Ross marked.
There's a running tale about one particular guy attempting a holdup with one of these (probably stolen) pistols. After being arrested, he was told the firearm's value...
Quite sadistic...
PP.;)
 
I remember reading about that guy who got around $100 while using a Canadian North American Arms 1911 pistol valued at over $10,000+.
I've heard of other guys using stolen Perazzi shotguns and sawing the barrels and stocks. Same thing take a $10,000 shotgun and use it to steal $50.
That's why they are crooks, not much good at thinking.
 
I was about to say that is a Ross sling on the SMLE, but on closer inspection I don't think it is. Did SMLE's have leather slings at one time? You sure don't see them now...

Oh yeah, and they have a Ross bayonet beside the SMLE...
 
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