WW milsurps generally came with open sights. I can't use open sights anymore,I have to use a scope.My favourite 'go to' rifle is a 65x55 swede with a 4X Leopold ..Tradeex has an excellent supply of 'military ' swedes, M98s and 'sporterized ' swedes,some with cut down military stocks,some with dedicated sporter stocks. Some of the swedes are drilled and tapped for scopes,some already have mounts.Some come with scopes ...they are about the best value you can get in terms of quality,fit and finish. ...does that make them 'bubba'd ?
What's with the 'Bubba' thing?
- Thread starter ratherbefishin
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Perhaps if they were professionally done it would not IMHO
My 1876 Husqvarna Rolling Block was 'sporterized' too,possably done in the factory....is that a 'bubba'd ' rifle?....and when some ignorant person makes an unsolicited disparaging comment on the rifle I happen to be carrying,I generally tell them while they have a 'right to their own opinion,I don't need to hear it'..
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Eaglelord17
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Which is true, there is a big difference between someone having there opinion and someone telling you there opinion.
For example what you are complaining about is exactly what you just did to purists. I personally don't tell people my opinion unless asked. You just came into the purist sanctum, and called us all ignorant. Its like walking into church and yelling god doesn't exist. This is our place to discuss military rifles, if you don't like what is being discussed please look elsewhere.
In regards to both your Swede examples, yes they would be considered bubba'd by a collector (who collects milsurps) and they would want nothing to do with it (if it was for collecting purposes). To you it obviously is more practical and I can respect that, I just want nothing to do with it (for collecting purposes). All those alterations which make it more practical for you, make it less practical for a collector.
Personally I hunt, target shoot, and collect. Collecting happens to be my favourite out of these activities, however I still do the others. I am even considering buying a nice factory sporter by BSA or someone similar, however it isn't for collecting purposes, rather for hunting purposes. Yes it is still a bubba'd rifle, it just happens to be more practical for me for hunting purposes.
Couldn't agree more, And although I 'cut my teeth' by cutting my full wood Lee Enfield that every corner hardware store had a barrel full of them for sale over 50 years ago,I certainly wouldn't do that today,if for pure monitary reasons alone( why turn a $400 rifle into a $100 rifle,when there's plenty to go around already?) but please,if you're a collector,thank bubba for making your virgin collector more valuable....
But yeah,I'm very happy to shoot and hunt with those $100 rifles,they shoot just as well as the $400 collectors that should be preserved for future generations..as I said,my beef is self styled purists that turn up their nose ( and tell you) at some if the finest 'shooters' money can buy..but maybe not to offend anybodies sensitivities maybe we should have a 'deflowered milsurp' thread for people who just like to use what these rifles were originally intended for-using them...
But yeah,I'm very happy to shoot and hunt with those $100 rifles,they shoot just as well as the $400 collectors that should be preserved for future generations..as I said,my beef is self styled purists that turn up their nose ( and tell you) at some if the finest 'shooters' money can buy..but maybe not to offend anybodies sensitivities maybe we should have a 'deflowered milsurp' thread for people who just like to use what these rifles were originally intended for-using them...
Its interesting that you mention that, when I bought the Mauser in post # 35 it was in a barrel with a bunch of other various rifles, the Lee Enfields started at $ 13 and went on up to $ 29 for a Jungle Carbine.
Dad was disappointed when I came home with the Mauser as he was a War Vet.... " I had enough of those damn things pointed at me and you have to buy one ?? "
Long as I live I'll always remember his comment...
Eaglelord17
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To be honest, I don't care about the value of the firearm, and every collector I have met isn't really interested in the money aspect either. In fact we would rather they were all cheap so that way we could get a collection for cheap (or at least a larger one for the same price). It is about preserving history, sharing it, trying to find out more information, and the hunt for the right example.
The only people who have benefited from the rise in price, are those that have been collecting forever. The rest of us are the people who are paying the price. Have you ever considered how expensive it is to start a collection now? Just using Enfields as a example, and wanting one of the major easier to find models (No. 1 Mk. 3*, No. 4 Mk. 1, No. 5) your looking at around 500$ a pop, or 1500$ for 3 rifles. These were rifles made in the millions. My Swiss rifles, happen to fall in at about 300-350$ a pop (though they also seem to be rising), so your looking at 5 rifles for 1500$. Soviet firearms, you get even more for the same price. I would rather the ability to get a variety for cheap, then a small quantity for more.
