What's with this???
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That would be a hell of a summer at the range, wouldn't it?
Keeping up with parts would be a b^tch though - "Hi, ATR, I need another dozen chrome lined AR barrels, four dozen bolts and a dozen carriers" - lovely.
.. better they get shipped back to Canada for disposal than get lost in the shuffle ...maybe beggars can be choosers after all.
I wonder if the M16's slated for the ANA/ANP will eventually get will be manufactured at COLT CANADA
As far as the statement above - interchangability of parts probably due to the fact that the C7 was FA and the M16A3 is 3 shot burst.
.. That and the ANA probably want rails .. so they can mount optics .. and colorful afghan bobbles
I wonder if the M16's slated for the ANA/ANP will eventually get will be manufactured at COLT CANADA
As far as the statement above - interchangability of parts probably due to the fact that the C7 was FA and the M16A3 is 3 shot burst.
.. That and the ANA probably want rails .. so they can mount optics .. and colorful afghan bobbles
Damn those Americans and their Imperial M-16's! Everybody knows they should have switched to metric a long time ago like the Canadians did!
As far as the statement above - interchangability of parts probably due to the fact that the C7 was FA and the M16A3 is 3 shot burst.
.. That and the ANA probably want rails .. so they can mount optics .. and colorful afghan bobbles
The rear sight is different as well but I'd argue that the simpler A1 style sight is better suited to the Afghans, they hardly use them anyway. The US rifles that have been donated are the M16A2s so rails don't factor into it, the Afghans can't afford accessories anyway.
The shorter CS stock is definately more suited to them than the longer M16A2 length but neither is ideal for use with armour.
This totally sucks, I was hoping to get back over there in the future and take some photos of those rifles. The serial numbers have not been filed off like the article says, rather lines have been milled through all the markings (including the Canadian Forces) and new numbers stamped at the top of the magwell and again just above that on the upper receiver. Kandak I was working with ended up getting swapped out for a unit that had M16A2s so my opportunity to get pics was lost.
ETA: The fact that they claim parts aren't interchangeable just shows that they don't know what the hell they're talking about.
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To add to that if the FA was the issue I am pretty sure its just a matter of swapping one or two trigger mech parts. Correct me if I am wrong I honestly can't remember exactly how the burst worked.
Eh,
It wouldn't surprise me if some of these rifles were "lost" and ended up in the hands of the Taliban. I personally don't like the thought of the Taliban shooting at NATO troops with C7's. I also don't like the idea of the Taliban shooting at NATO troops with M16A2's either, but you know, I'm Canadian and all.
As others have mentioned, I would imagine that removing the full auto option from the ANA is a good thing - have you guys ever seen videos of them with their AK's with happy switches? Yeesh!
Plus, I'd assume getting these rifles back to our boys would be a good thing, it's not like the CF has ever really been swimming in extra kit. Yes, I know that these were probably war stock and haven't been used by the CF for a while, but still, better in our hands than the not-so-reliable ANA.
It wouldn't surprise me if some of these rifles were "lost" and ended up in the hands of the Taliban. I personally don't like the thought of the Taliban shooting at NATO troops with C7's. I also don't like the idea of the Taliban shooting at NATO troops with M16A2's either, but you know, I'm Canadian and all.
As others have mentioned, I would imagine that removing the full auto option from the ANA is a good thing - have you guys ever seen videos of them with their AK's with happy switches? Yeesh!
Plus, I'd assume getting these rifles back to our boys would be a good thing, it's not like the CF has ever really been swimming in extra kit. Yes, I know that these were probably war stock and haven't been used by the CF for a while, but still, better in our hands than the not-so-reliable ANA.
Article states that they were slated for destruction prior to giving them to the ANA and I would assume that the same fate awaits them if they return here. They'll probably have Canadians destroy them over there to save on the shipping and paperwork hassles.
Gunnerlove
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Eh,
It wouldn't surprise me if some of these rifles were "lost" and ended up in the hands of the Taliban. I personally don't like the thought of the Taliban shooting at NATO troops with C7's. I also don't like the idea of the Taliban shooting at NATO troops with M16A2's either, but you know, I'm Canadian and all.
As others have mentioned, I would imagine that removing the full auto option from the ANA is a good thing - have you guys ever seen videos of them with their AK's with happy switches? Yeesh!
Plus, I'd assume getting these rifles back to our boys would be a good thing, it's not like the CF has ever really been swimming in extra kit. Yes, I know that these were probably war stock and haven't been used by the CF for a while, but still, better in our hands than the not-so-reliable ANA.
They were worn (but not out) and obsolete before they were shipped.
They are never going back into Canadian service.
There is no shortage of rifles in the CF.
The US is picking up the tab and covering logistics, is there a downside?
Gunnerlove
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