whats wrong with a Remington MLS 50 cal

If you follow the logic in some of the replies, the conclusion is that the muzzle-loading season should only be available to smooth bore match-locks--that is about as traditional and romantic as you can get.

If the muzzle-loading season is regulated properly it can accomodate all interests. It is the opportunity to have choices that is the important issue.

44Bore
 
gth said:
Its and extra season for muzzleloading guns plain and simple, so how can you say that the inline hunters put the season in jeopardy, percieved

In many US states the game laws are designed to eliminate inlines. Here in BC a few years ago, I suggested to the game branch that we have a muzzle loading season locally but restricted to traditional guns because of the percieved extra range and power of the inlines (was suggesting it in a shotgun only area). I was told that it was not possible to eliminate inlines. In my opinion it was because the law makers were too unknowledgeable or too lazy or both to write laws that select for traditional guns loaded with roundball.
The only reason that Ontario has a special season is that they appear to have lots of deer and probably relatively few people hunt in the muzzle loading season. To repeat, in BC the percieved power and range of inlines was used to justify eliminating the only muzzle loading special season we had.

cheers mooncoon
 
gth said:
I'm not gonna starve if I dont shoot a deer so I wont disagree with that. I will say, MY OPINION is that the Ontario Muzzle-loader season is about hunting.;) Traditional rifle or otherwise, hell you can even wear your "Hunter Orange Buckskins" if you wish......:D

Can you buy such a thing? Would certainly look interesting... :p
 
Guys,,Guys,,Guys,,M/L is M/L,Archery is Archery and Rifle is Rifle.
We all have enough anti-hunters crawling up our combined butts without fighting amongst ourselves...
You want to use a smooth-bore 58 and I want to use a Savage Smokeless M/L,,we still load one round at a time down the muzzle.Lets enjoy the hunt and respect each other's M/L preference.
Hunt Safe,shoot straight and harvest humanely....
 
BWANA - Well put.

Any-who, to answer the ORIGINAL question 57 posts, 5 pages, and 4 (way off) topics ago about why his Remington ML isn't drawing interest...

When Remington introduced the ML line, they had gold in there hands...but did nothing more with it. They didn't further engineer or refine improvements to make it a better shooter. The flimsy synthetic stock is very cheap - regardless of what color you paint it, and other than the 209 uprade, Remington walked away from it.

Bolt action ML's get dirty, the open breech concept is subject to weather, and cleaning is more involved, and a 28" bbl makes for a REALLY long rifle.

Thats why the trend went to break action. Enclosed breech, longer bbls that fit in a regular rifle footprint (more FPS) , easy to clean, etc.

Thats why the Bolt action ML is not that popular - save Savage. They fall into their own category due to the convience and advantage offered by smokless powders.

Personally, I collect them all. My inline's a shooter, but I love to pull the trigger on my Kentucky too!

Thanks
 
Ml

If I like chocolate cake and my wife likes cherry pie, am I right to tell her she is wrong? We all have different tastes and interests, likes and dislikes. That's what makes us all unique. No one is right or wrong. We use what we like and the next fella uses what he likes. The law states muzzleloader season and we have a choice which muzzleloader we like to use. If someone says they switched to inline and have lost alot more deer because of it, I have to say that it is impossible to blame anything on any equipment. If a person knows his firearm, no matter what type, knows what range HE is effective in shooting it and putting down what HE is shooting at, there is no blame on the firearm. Too many people say they are ethical and I have seen too many people shoot at any deer that comes into sight with no restraint even though it it beyond HIS limits, not the firearms. If a person has never shot at anything lets say beyond 100 yds. A deer comes out at 200. Someone has told him his bullet will drop 15 inches at 200, should he shoot? If anyone says yes you would be unetical to do so because you have not verified this in you firearm. Now Joe switches to an inline with a scope and in his mind he has a single shot rifle with long range. He is shootong at deer at longer ranges than he shot at them with his traditional and loosing them. Is this the inlines fault or his. Shooting at any animal without being 100% sure that you will kill it with that shot is wrong and unethical. No amount of suffering on the deer's part is an excuse to pull a trigger and blame it on equipment. Don't get me wrong, I understand guns are a mechanical device and things can happen. Going out and loosing piles of deer is what gives all the antis fuel for their fire. We need to prove them wrong and how can we when there are too many of us proving them right in how we hunt and squibble over every detail that we don't agree on. I'm sure that someone will disagree with this post but that doesn't make him an idiot, or me. He is an individual that will live by his code and I by mine. No matter what our individual codes, let's all recognise ethical hunting and animal suffering. And respect each other's opinions. Use what you like and support each other. It's all good. And by the way I use a remington inline. I know I can hit a vital at 100 yds but have tried 200 but there is no consistancy. I will not pull the trigger on a deer at 200 even if it is a buck of a lifetime. I will not risk injuring a deer and letting it suffer and die days later. It's wrong and we all know it. Sorry so long winded.
John
 
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