When did things change ?

powdergun

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This is not a rant by any shape or form just something I'm curious about. I grew up calling a buck with 4 point on one side a 4 point and so on. Americans from those TV shows called it an eight point. Now it seems that everyone is using the american terms and things like 4X5"s or 6X7's etc.

Have we been overtaken by the lingo from US hunting shows ? Maybe I just need a good whack between the horns with a 2X4.:D
 
Id call a buck a 5x3 or a 4x4

I call them a 4x4 or 5x5 but add an approximate B&C score as it gives a person a much better impression of the antlers.A 5x5 can be a small 2-1/2 year old or it can be a huge mature buck,so simple saying 5x5 doesn't mean much.
 
We tally up the total amount of points so a 4x4 would be an eight pointer and a 6x6 would be a 12 pointer, but it could just be an eastern thing. I thought the 4x4, 5x5, etc. stuff was only used on mule deer and elk?
 
if both sides match i just call it a 4 point or whatever, not an 8 point. if the sides don't match i say 4x3 or what have you.

this has been going on for a long time, i have correspondence from the 1950's where an elk is called a 6 point, but noted that is 12 points total.
 
Its called Eastern count and Western count, and has been like that since way before TVs were invented. I actually prefer using the 4x4 or 4x5 method, adding descriptors as necessary. One of my bucks I would describe as a 6x5 with a couple stickers off one burr. That actually tells the listener something, compared to calling it a 5, 6, 11 or 13 pointer.That could mean anything.
Also the farther east you go, the more likely you are to get deer body weights with the head and hide on, or even estimated live weight. Nearly everyone in the west goes by dressed weight, ready to cut. One way is no better than the next, but you have to ask a few questions to get on the same page.
 
If you call a muley a 160 class 4x4 with eyeguards, I get a decent mental picture of the buck you're describing. An 10 point whitetail could be a teeny basket buck or a Boone & Crockett record contender, I'd need something more to go on. My neighbors in Alberta, don't include the G1's on whitetails, so a 4 point whitey in BC is a 3 point whitey in Alberta. Takes a while, but we all learn to accept it. Call 'em what you want, they all make good jerky & sausage :D
 
I just use the local lingo, if I got a 4x4, 4 point, or an 8 point.

I call it an 8point here because thats what everyone else calls it.
just total em up and there you go
 
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