When do I call the CFO?

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At what point do I contact the CFO

When I start my Lower build or once I've finished the build?
Do I literally just call the office of the CFO and tell them?

Thanks
 
What does it say at the top of the paper the registration certificate is printed on?

Or are you scratch building the lower from a billet?
 
What does it say at the top of the paper the registration certificate is printed on?

Or are you scratch building the lower from a billet?

I'm at work don't have that in front of me, I know I have 30 days but can't remember if its once I start or once I finish.
I have a stripped lower receiver
 
Once you are in possession of an upper, can attach it to your lower and able to fire a shot, you have within 30 days to call to inform the CFO of the change.
 
Unless I am reading this incorrectly you already have a lower in your possetion. If that is the case it must already be registered stripped or not. You don’t need to contact the cfo again until such time that you attract it to an upper and plan on leaving it that way.
 
Unless I am reading this incorrectly you already have a lower in your possetion. If that is the case it must already be registered stripped or not. You don’t need to contact the cfo again until such time that you attract it to an upper and plan on leaving it that way.

Yep a registered stripped lower
 
Once you are in possession of an upper, can attach it to your lower and able to fire a shot, you have within 30 days to call to inform the CFO of the change.

No. You have 30 days tp inform the cfo of a PERMANENT change to a firearm. Owning an upper nd a lower does not mean you have either assembled or made permanent a change to the lower.
 
No. You have 30 days tp inform the cfo of a PERMANENT change to a firearm. Owning an upper nd a lower does not mean you have either assembled or made permanent a change to the lower.

Right, but you need the new certificate with those changes listed before assembling the lower to the upper and firing a round.
 
No. You have 30 days tp inform the cfo of a PERMANENT change to a firearm. Owning an upper nd a lower does not mean you have either assembled or made permanent a change to the lower.

Conditions
  • 4 (1) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar, within 30 days after the modification, of
    • (a) any modification to the firearm that results in a change of class of the firearm;
    • (b) in the case of a firearm registered as a frame or receiver only, any modification that makes it capable of discharging ammunition;
    • (c) any modification to an altered automatic firearm; and
    • (d) any modification that results in the firearm ceasing to be a firearm.
  • (2) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that when the type, action, calibre or gauge of the firearm is modified, the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar of the modification,
    • (a) if the modification is intended to be permanent, within 30 days after the modification; and
    • (b) if the modification is not intended to be permanent but still exists 30 days after it is made, without delay after that period.
 
Right, but you need the new certificate with those changes listed before assembling the lower to the upper and firing a round.

No you don't. You have 30 days tp inform them of the change. That is 30 days after the change.
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  • 4 (1) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar, within 30 days after the modification, of
    • (a) any modification to the firearm that results in a change of class of the firearm;
    • (b) in the case of a firearm registered as a frame or receiver only, any modification that makes it capable of discharging ammunition;
    • (c) any modification to an altered automatic firearm; and
    • (d) any modification that results in the firearm ceasing to be a firearm.
  • (2) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that when the type, action, calibre or gauge of the firearm is modified, the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar of the modification,
    • (a) if the modification is intended to be permanent, within 30 days after the modification; and
    • (b) if the modification is not intended to be permanent but still exists 30 days after it is made, without delay after that period.

Again owning an upper and a lower does not mean they are part and parcel the same firearm. There is also no way to know how long you've had the lower nor how long it has been since you "assembled" it.
 
No you don't. You have 30 days tp inform them of the change. That is 30 days after the change.


Again owning an upper and a lower does not mean they are part and parcel the same firearm. There is also no way to know how long you've had the lower nor how long it has been since you "assembled" it.

So your interpretation is that you can assemble and fire an AR that is registered as a “frame/reciever” as long as you take it apart once every 30 days?
 
So your interpretation is that you can assemble and fire an AR that is registered as a “frame/reciever” as long as you take it apart once every 30 days?

How would you prove it was assembled and how would you prove it was done more than 30 days prior??
 
Again owning an upper and a lower does not mean they are part and parcel the same firearm. There is also no way to know how long you've had the lower nor how long it has been since you "assembled" it.
Owning AR upper and lower receivers together will be considered a firearm, just because you separated them for transport means nothing, they will be treated the same as a "take down" rifle or shotgun.
 
Owning AR upper and lower receivers together will be considered a firearm, just because you separated them for transport means nothing, they will be treated the same as a "take down" rifle or shotgun.

There's no special conditions for transporting an upper. Your lower is the firearm. How do you prove the upper and rifle were assembled more than 30 days ago?
 
There's no special conditions for transporting an upper. Your lower is the firearm. How do you prove the upper and rifle were assembled more than 30 days ago?

Definitely works with the wording of the law, no surprise due the vagueness that is the FA. Would be interesting to see what would happen if it went to court though.
 
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